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Old 04-06-2008, 09:12 PM   #1
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According to Mayock, he asked four scouts who they thought Parcells would draft. He says all four of them told him they expected Miami to pick Jake Long.

That's not the interesting part, per se; what was interesting is that he says, in that case, he sees STL taking Dorsey, and ATL taking Ryan. . . . which leaves a very good chance that at #5 and #6 both C. Long and Gholston will be available.

So, in that case, what would you do?
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If Gholston and Long are available at #5 I do nothing, as the Chiefs won't take either. Herm is not a BPA disciple and would probably take Clady, Otah, or Williams. Unless they trade the pick, we'd get one of them.
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What about the Raiders?
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What about the Raiders?
I assume he figures they'd taken McFadden (Al loves speed) but I think they would take Howie's son; and wouldn't mind Gholston for themselves either.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the Raiders take Howie Long's son if available. That would be a fantastic pick for the Raiders organization. But if the Raiders took McFadden, I would stay put if I were the Pats. In fact, I would trade down, not up. Because the Pats basically threw away their '07 draft, they need all the picks they can gather for this years draft. If the Pats can trade down twice they can pick up possibly two thirds or a 3rd and a 4th at worst. Then they can take those picks and move up higher in the second round to get a CB/LB or the best available player. As much as I liked Gholston a few months ago, I'm starting to lean towards trading down and getting Quentin Groves because he has had experience in a 3-4. In addition, Groves says he is willing to play inside or outside, which we know the Pats really like.

Regarding the Jets, if they had to chose between McFadden and Gholston, they would take McFadden. The despretely need a playmaker on offense.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see the Raiders take Howie Long's son if available. That would be a fantastic pick for the Raiders organization. But if the Raiders took McFadden, I would stay put if I were the Pats. In fact, I would trade down, not up. Because the Pats basically threw away their '07 draft, they need all the picks they can gather for this years draft. If the Pats can trade down twice they can pick up possibly two thirds or a 3rd and a 4th at worst. Then they can take those picks and move up higher in the second round to get a CB/LB or the best available player. As much as I liked Gholston a few months ago, I'm starting to lean towards trading down and getting Quentin Groves because he has had experience in a 3-4. In addition, Groves says he is willing to play inside or outside, which we know the Pats really like.

Regarding the Jets, if they had to chose between McFadden and Gholston, they would take McFadden. The despretely need a playmaker on offense.
Threw away the 07 draft? How do you figure? We got Brandon Meriweather, who a lot of people like and a lot of people think has a bright future, and we traded a round 4 pick for Randy Moss, who only caught an NFL record number of TDs. I thought that was a good draft for what we got.
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Threw away the 07 draft? How do you figure? We got Brandon Meriweather, who a lot of people like and a lot of people think has a bright future, and we traded a round 4 pick for Randy Moss, who only caught an NFL record number of TDs. I thought that was a good draft for what we got.
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Alright, let me rephrase what I said about throwing away the draft. Aside from Moss, Welker and Merriweather, the Pats didn't seem to high on the '07 draft. And looking at it know, it seems as the though the Pats made the right decision and didn't miss out on any on anyone special. Moss was a no brainer for a 4th round pick. Some people thought a 2nd round pick might have been too much for Wes Welker; no one would disagree with that decision now.
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Well, if that does happen what Mayock inferred was that KC is going to deal their pick....and with every team behind us drooling over C.Long/Gholston it would behoove us to be the trade up guys if we covet them. I can EASILY see Baltimore jumping up to 5 to get him! And if they offer their 2 we cant beat that....Cincy NEEDS 3 LBs, NO, even Carolina would be crazy not to jump up there. If we dont tradeup that will be one less team for US to trade backwards with....
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I guess the question comes down to just how many of the Top 10ish players the Pats have their eyes on, and how closely together they're ranked.

If three (or more) guys the Pats want are still there at #5, they can just sit and wait and take whoever's left. If there's only one or two available, then they have to decide if they want to pull the trigger.

Presumably, though, they'll have already figured out which players are worth drafting there (e.g., they may say that Gholston is worth #5*, Chris Long #4*, etc.). [*Numbers chosen for illustrative purposes only]
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