If Asante leaves the #7 pick better not be a corner - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

A.C Vegas · 02-17-2008, 10:18 PM

it's either going to be very hard or very easy. let me explain if a player slips(the longs,mcfadden, ellis you know what i mean) then the phone will be ringing like mad other wise it'll be nearly impossable

MrBigglesWorth · 02-17-2008, 10:23 PM

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You make great points. But to go farther, if Samuel stays or not, there is no way a corner is taken at #7. I also think that I am the only one on this board that thinks trading the pick is going to be harder than we all think (especially if we assume we are going to get value back).

I agree. I think it might be a little easier than trading #2.

The key will be if they can trade it for good value.

patsfan-1982 · 02-18-2008, 01:56 AM

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I am hoping that we trade down with the #7 overall pick.

I think there is a chance the Matt Ryan will be available when the
Patriots pick. If Atlanta does not pick Ryan, he may drop.

A team like Chicago or Minnesota may want to move up to jump
in front of #8 Baltimore who would probably pick Ryan.

If for some reason we cannot trade the pick, go get a LT like
Ryan Clady.

We could then move Light to RT and Kaczur to the bench !

why would u move a ALL PRO LT to RT and the put a rookie there

***VJCPatriot*** · 02-18-2008, 10:08 PM

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why would u move a ALL PRO LT to RT and the put a rookie there

Well if the rookie protects like Ogden, you put him there. Best talent needs to protect the QB's blindside. It's pretty simple.

***mgteich*** · 02-19-2008, 07:09 AM

No rookie projects to be Ogden in his first year.

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Well if the rookie protects like Ogden, you put him there. Best talent needs to protect the QB's blindside. It's pretty simple.

dryheat44 · 02-19-2008, 07:42 AM

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If they use #7 for a corner then why not pay a little more to keep Asante and keep the pick? Basically using the #7 on a corner will more or less keep the defense at the status quo. I won't see a huge jump for the defense. We'll keep asking when the Pats are going to draft a linebacker in the higher rounds.

I could live with a corner if they trade down and accumulate extra picks.

To use the #7 for an corner straight up will mean huge guaranteed money and contract. I'd rather see that money go to a known commodity.

So my assessment is Asante is gone, so I hope #7 is a linebacker, Jake Long or just trade down.

Please no corner with #7.

I think the whole time framework of this POV is off. Asante will be signed by some team before the draft...probably soon after March 1. Let's say we offer Samuel a great deal, but somebody offers him more and we lose him.

The draft is six weeks later. Are you saying that we shouldn't draft a cornerback, because we lost Asante? Isn't that a silly argument? Who's going to play corner? What if Gay leaves UFA as well? Saying we should offer the money given to the #7 pick to Asante is fine, but by draft-time, Asante won't be a free agent any more.

MrBigglesWorth · 02-19-2008, 08:23 AM

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I think the whole time framework of this POV is off. Asante will be signed by some team before the draft...probably soon after March 1. Let's say we offer Samuel a great deal, but somebody offers him more and we lose him.

The draft is six weeks later. Are you saying that we shouldn't draft a cornerback, because we lost Asante? Isn't that a silly argument? Who's going to play corner? What if Gay leaves UFA as well? Saying we should offer the money given to the #7 pick to Asante is fine, but by draft-time, Asante won't be a free agent any more.

I'm saying you could get value by trading down(10-15), but obviously you need a trading partner. I believe Gay will be back. Now if Gay and Asante leave then you are left with bringing back Chad Scott or Eugene Wilson. Obviously you are thin at corner back but do you really want a rookie starting at cb anyways?

I just don't want to see a cb picked at #7. I don't think there is anyone there that warrants value and I think picking one their because of need would be reaching.

dryheat44 · 02-19-2008, 08:40 AM

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I just don't want to see a cb picked at #7. I don't think there is anyone there that warrants value and I think picking one their because of need would be reaching.

Okay, so what you're saying is that regardless of what happens to Asante or Blue, you don't want to take a CB at #1, because none are worth it.

I can see that. Honestly, I'm not sure any player who's on the board is going to be worth the #7 pick. Maybe Matt Ryan to a QB needy team.

MrBigglesWorth · 02-19-2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dryheat44

Okay, so what you're saying is that regardless of what happens to Asante or Blue, you don't want to take a CB at #1, because none are worth it.

I can see that. Honestly, I'm not sure any player who's on the board is going to be worth the #7 pick. Maybe Matt Ryan to a QB needy team.

exactly.... trade down and pick up a cb cheaper

NormZauchin · 02-19-2008, 07:36 PM

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Okay, so what you're saying is that regardless of what happens to Asante or Blue, you don't want to take a CB at #1, because none are worth it.

I can see that. Honestly, I'm not sure any player who's on the board is going to be worth the #7 pick. Maybe Matt Ryan to a QB needy team.

All the available cornerbacks are said to be a reach at 7. If we can't find a partner to trade down, you draft a player at a position where it's difficult to get quality, e.g., offensive or defensive line.