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Old 01-31-2008, 07:38 AM   #1
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As it stands right now. There are two teams who need Matt Ryan in the top five (Atlanta and KC). For the Pats, I think it will be great if Atlanta rolls the dice and takes McFadden (great possibility), because this will increase the chances of Matt falling down to us at #7. Even though KC needs a QB, I can't see them passing on an Ellis or Long if available to take Ryan.

Baltimore, at #8, is hoping beyond anything else that Ryan falls to them at #8 and here's where BB can play that trump Ace of hearts card. We could call the Falcons back up (old friend, Dimitroff) and offer him the #7 for his (#35) and (#57). This puts us in that (Cason, Cromartie, Talib) window at #35 and it gives us yet another 3rd round pick to add to the 2 that we already have, giving us our own 2nd rounder and 3 - 3rd round picks to stockpile LB, OL and another corner.

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Old 01-31-2008, 07:53 AM   #2
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As it stands right now. There are two teams who need Matt Ryan in the top five (Atlanta and KC). For the Pats, I think it will be great if Atlanta rolls the dice and takes McFadden (great possibility), because this will increase the chances of Matt falling down to us at #7. Even though KC needs a QB, I can't see them passing on an Ellis or Long if available to take Ryan.

Baltimore, at #8, is hoping beyond anything else that Ryan falls to them at #8 and here's where BB can play that trump Ace of hearts card. We could call the Falcons back up (old friend, Dimitroff) and offer him the #7 for his (#35) and (#57). This puts us in that (Cason, Cromartie, Talib) window at #35 and it gives us yet another 3rd round pick to add to the 2 that we already have, giving us our own 2nd rounder and 3 - 3rd round picks to stockpile LB, OL and another corner.
I don't get it. Why would the Pats trade out of the first round entirely?
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I don't get it. Why would the Pats trade out of the first round entirely?
My point is whether we deal with the Falcons or someone else lower in Round 1, is that by Matt Ryan falling to us, in my opinion, this can really work out great for the Patriots, simply because we're picking right in front of the Ravens who are QB starved.

You do make a good point, the NFL Draft point value chart does have the #7 pick equating to 1500pts, where as the Falcons (2nd and 3rd picks equate to a total of 860pts), this is where I could see BB asking for both these picks and a #1 or a #2 from the Falcons in 09.
 
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are you totally forgetting that the Bears need a QB adn will probaly try to trade up as well. and what is mcfadden falls to us then dallas just might be pound on the door for him
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are you totally forgetting that the Bears need a QB adn will probaly try to trade up as well. and what is mcfadden falls to us then dallas just might be pound on the door for him
I agree, like I said, it doesn't have to be the Falcons, the Bears would work also at #14 and we could also ask for their 4th round pick to go with it. Cromartie is climbing draft boards like no one's business and he might climb into the middle of round 1, so sure, this scenario works for me.

As far as McFadden falling to us, fat chance on that happening. The more likely scenario is Matt Ryan falling to us at #7 which is exactly what I hope happens. Believe it or not, if the Ravens know that we're fielding phone calls for that #7 pick, don't put it past them to call us and we simply swap picks 7 and 8 and we can rob them of a 4th round pick.

Cromartie for me is the pick, he's 6'2", world class speed with a vertical leap identitical to his cousin Antoinio. This is the guy I'm hoping the Pats are targeting. I watched him in the senior bowl and he was dominant.
I also like the fact that he's tall, right now the Pats have issues with tall wideouts because of our lack of height on the outside. We could match this kid up with all the tall wideout mismatches we seem to face year in and year out. Here's a good scouting report on him :

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_...s-Cromarti.htm

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The problem with this logic for me is that there is a decently solid group of QBs in this draft, none of whom are sure-fire can't miss guys. I agree with your assertion that Matt Ryan is the best of the bunch, but how much better is he than Brian Brohm or Andre Woodson (who I know had a bad Senior Bowl)? Furthermore, none of these guys are Carson Palmer-level talents for example, so their hardly a sure thing. Why would a team trade up to get Ryan if they don't have him ranked much higher than Brohm to begin with?
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The problem with this logic for me is that there is a decently solid group of QBs in this draft, none of whom are sure-fire can't miss guys. I agree with your assertion that Matt Ryan is the best of the bunch, but how much better is he than Brian Brohm or Andre Woodson (who I know had a bad Senior Bowl)? Furthermore, none of these guys are Carson Palmer-level talents for example, so their hardly a sure thing. Why would a team trade up to get Ryan if they don't have him ranked much higher than Brohm to begin with?
Check any draft board and you'll see that Matt Ryan will be the 1st QB off the board. Mike Mayok was raving about Ryan during Senior bowl week and Mayok has him as his #1 ranked QB, which most if not all draft boards do. Of that bunch of QB's you mention, Ryan is the most NFL ready right now. Ryan made prime rib out of ground chuck with those 1AA wideouts he was throwing to all season. If he had just 1 legit wideout, he would have been Carson Palmer and would be the #1 pick. NFL scouts realize this and know that Ryan is a franchise QB. Believe me, if he falls to us at #7, keep your eye on the Pats draft table, the red phone lights will be lighting up the room.
 
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The QB distribution should be interesting this year. Ryan is considered the one distancing himself as the #1. Woodson is wilting. Brohm has questions. Brennan might be an UDFA.

I'm more impressed with Joe Flacco than Ryan. To me, the question is if teams are that enamored with Ryan. If he lasts past 5 or 6, teams may get a little punchy. Otherwise, the other QBs will either get drafted too early or be neglected.

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are you totally forgetting that the Bears need a QB adn will probaly try to trade up as well. and what is mcfadden falls to us then dallas just might be pound on the door for him
The Bears are too stupid to draft a quarterback in the first round. The Cowboys would give us both of their #1 draft picks for a chance to draft McFadden.
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The Bears are too stupid to draft a quarterback in the first round. The Cowboys would give us both of their #1 draft picks for a chance to draft McFadden.
Dallas won't be interested in McFadden. They already have a top 10 RB and just need a scat back to share carries (Felix Jones and the end of the first or Chris Johnson at the end of the second).

Jerry Jones blew his wad on one player several years back (Joey Galloway) and swore off it. This is just rampant speculation on the part of the media (mostly Miami media right now) and Jerry Jones will do nothing to quash it. If they were truly interested in McFadden, they would be downplaying it.

But the truth is, JJ loves this sort of attention for his franchise and if the country wants to talk about the Cowboys making the big splash for MdFadden for three months, JJ won't do anything to stop it.

(I guess if the price were MBIII and their second rounder, they'd do it - that would require some falling on McFadden's part.)
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