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Old 03-11-2011, 11:14 AM   #21
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Possibly but I suspect that they were more interested in pass rushers and OL'ers.

Remember that the Patriots only scout certain positions. As far as Safety they were probably targeting lower-round prospects.
If the Pats scout punters (Mesko last year) then I'm guessing they scout safeties too.

If you're implying they're spending more time this year scouting positions other than safety because there is a bigger need at other positions, then I can see that - up to a point. But since part of Belichick's philosophy is 'we want our 10th player to be better than their 10th player, we want our 25th to be better than their 25th', etc., then I am confident that there is at least some scouting done on safeties too - despite this draft class being very weak at that position.

Just because some draft expert says there are no safeties worth drafting in the first three rounds, it's not as if the Pats are going to read that and say 'well let's not waste our time scouting any safeties this year'.
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:17 AM   #22
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UDFA's ....... that's about it......


not worth using a pick on anyone since they would not be any kind of upgrade any time soon.....

better off using that pick as bait to move up earlier in the draft
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Remember that the Patriots only scout certain positions. As far as Safety they were probably targeting lower-round prospects.
According to Patriot Reign, scouts are tasked with producing reports on every draft-eligible player they watch. [Yes, there are certain players the Pats spend more time on (e.g., Vollmer, Edelperson).]
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I'd love to pick up Weddle from the Chargers...what would he cost in terms of picks and money?
Good call....I believe #33 would work. There is your top 50 safety in this Draft class who is pretty good as well.
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Good call....I believe #33 would work. There is your top 50 safety in this Draft class who is pretty good as well.
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He can't be traded now, and once there's a new CBA, he should be a UFA (since he has four years under his belt).

So there's no point at all in coughing up any draft pick for him. Plus $7M/yr seems a bit steep, if that's what it takes.
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I think you're off your rocker.
Then Michael Holley is also since that is where I got it from. It was in Patriots Reign.

As far as being off my rocker that is quite possible but not on this point.
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If the Pats scout punters (Mesko last year) then I'm guessing they scout safeties too..
They scouted punters since they needed a punter. I am pretty sure they did not spend any time this year on punters.
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They scouted punters since they needed a punter. I am pretty sure they did not spend any time this year on punters.
I'm pretty sure they did. Scouting reports on youngsters NE does not expect to draft has value beyond the immediate draft day expectations, it's part of the file used to prepare for an opponent ... and you never know when Zoltan is going to awaken in a suite in Las Vegas next to some poor hooker he wore out and find his actions exceeded the Kraft family's good will. Be prepared Boy Scout.
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I would think they scout all positions, seems like every year they pick up someone that was drafted a couple of years prior and we always hear "The Pats were interested in this guy during the draft process".

Now they may concentrate more on a given position of need in any given year, but would rank all prospects. This would also help them figure out what they think other teams may be picking.


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Good call....I believe #33 would work. There is your top 50 safety in this Draft class who is pretty good as well.
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The pure safety draft is very weak this year, but it doesn't mean that New England can't move a physical bigger CB to safety, ala Allen of the Citadel as a late round/UDFA draftee.
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