muslimman

I know there has been a lot of talk and hype around this kid. Especially in these forums with a lot fans drooling at the idea of him playing for the Patriots and being our feature back. A lot of that talk is very justified, theres no denying that Ingram is a great athlete and has been a great back in college.

The "in college" part there is key because like any position in football RBs dont always produce in the NFL nearly as much as they did in college *coughreggiebushcough*.

Its not like this 40 time is his death sentence but it is no way impressive for a feature back in the NFL. Say what you want about him being a power back but I just dont buy it... successful power backs in the league have run faster times. I mean Brandon freaking Jacobs ran a 4.56 or even MJDs 4.39 if you want a back that compares better to Ingram. I understand that you have to take the 40 time with a grain of salt because theres football fast and t-shirt and shorts fast, but lets face its not like Ingram is somehow gonna get faster when he puts on pads.

After this do you guys still want to use one of our firsts to draft Mark Ingram?

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convertedpatsfan

Depending on what you read, Emmitt Smith either ran a 4.55 or a 4.7. Jerry Rice ran a 4.71. Last year's rushing leader, Arian Foster, ran a 4.73 and a 4.69.

I wish they made the guys at least run while wearing full football equipment. At least that'd be a slightly better indicator of speed on the field.

And I wonder how many people could watch a prospect run a 4.4 and a 4.6 without a stopwatch and even tell the difference with the naked eye.

As for whether it changed my opinion, it didn't since I was against using a 1st before and I still am.

jczxohn1

Don't remember his ht&wt, but his stats don't indicate Inghram will be a "power back" in the NFL. The more disturbing fact was that he dropped 10 lbs for the combine and thought he was a lot faster.

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carolinatony

I wouldn't mind a solid RB but.....our Biggest needs are OLB, DE and OL. A OG/C wouldn't hurt either and would help the run game.

With 6 picks in the first 3 rounds we should upgrade the lines before we go RB but BB could surprise us like always,

mgteich

The good news is that he will now be likely to be available at 17.
The bad news is that he will now be likely to be available at 17.

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VJCPatriot

Not at 17. But at 28 or 33 he'd be okay. You neglect to mention that Ingram had a 10 yard split of 1.53 seconds which is equal or better than our quickest wide receivers. Does Ingram have deep speed? No. But how many 20 yard patterns is he going to run downfield? To get from where the ball is snapped to get 10 yards downfield to the 1st down marker, Ingram is still one of the fastest prospects available in this year's draft.

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DropKickFlutie

Emmett Smith, the all time NFL rushing leader, had slow straight line speed but always gave you 3-7 yards every single run, and was money in short yardage and red zone plays.

A "home run" running back is over rated in my opinion, especially in the pass-happy league we have now.

What you really want is someone who will consistently get you into 2nd and 6, or 3rd and 2, or convert that 3rd down.

A previous poster also pointed out that last year's rushing leader Arian Foster ran a 4.7, and the best NFL player in history Jerry Rice ran a 4.7.

If Ingram slides, I'd happily take him with our 1st pick without trading up. Just because a player falls in the draft doesn't mean there's anything inherently wrong with him - remember Wilfork falling to 21?

ausbacker

Arian Foster looks like he's running a sub 10 second 100 metres sprint on the football field. Dynamite football acceleration.

Remix 6

and dont forget that Ingram's 10 yard split is great which I think is more important. it shows burst but 40 shows he lacks long speed which is fine because thats not his game. his game is finding hole, being quick in the hole and exploding through there and then going head to head verse the secondary which is a win for him because he's so tough to bring down 1 on 1 because of his low center of gravity and running style

Rob0729

Not that I am advocating taking Ingram, but people put too much stock in Combines numbers.