bunzoburns

http://walterfootball.com/draft2008.php

I would be thrilled with these picks!

dryheat44

Said picks being Malcolm Jenkins, Vince Hall, Chris Johnson, and Chevis Jackson. This guy had us taking Johnson before too. Must be his binky, because with all the quality RBs in the draft, it's hard for me to see Johnson going before the fifth round, unless that 4.2 reported speed is legit, which I tend to doubt. Hall is an interesting consideration. Using his draft, I'd opt for:

1. Vernon Gholston OLB Ohio St
2. Anthony Collins OT Kansas
3a. Trae Williams CB South Florida
3b. Owen Schmidtt FB West Virginia

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chowder

After seeing Gholston be a nonfactor in the NC game, i think i'd pass on him (at least as a #7 pick. I might be willing to trade down for him though). The other picks look good.

dryheat44

Yeah, the only other option, for me, is Sam Baker. Either way, I think #7 is too high, but there's nobody else I'd consider in that spot. I guess that's a charitable way of saying I'm not so high on Malcolm Jenkins.

Don't forget that the shift to OLB should help Gholston once he adapts.

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PonyExpress

Surprised you'd say that about Baker. Packs no pop in the run game, seems ordinary in pass pro.

ayjackson

I feel the same way on the CB situation in general. I'm not sure we can't get good corners later on - it seems deep at the position, whereas consensus on the top one is spotty.

At #7, I like the Longs and not much else anymore. I'm very interested in the trade down. Atlanta looks like the best option to me.

sebman2112

Concering the originally posted Mock (from Walterfootball.com):

Malcolm Jenkins could be a good CB, but maybe Cason would be a better option with a trade down?

Vince Hall's probably to small for BB's system.

Chris Johnson could be an option, but he's likely going later in the draft. I'd also like to know who takes fliers with early third round selections?

Chevis Jackson's actually a player I like, but I don't know if he makes it to the very end of round three.

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Concerning your Mock:

Gholston makes more sense at 4-3 DE or 3-4 1 gap OLB (think SD). I could see the Patriots trying to develop him, but I don't know if they'd spend a top ten pick on him. To me he's pretty raw and at least somewhat of a project for a 2 gap system.

I thought Trae Williams was getting projected higher than that? It is the early third though, so he might be there.

Owen will likely be around in the fourth if NE's interested, so there's probably no sense in spending a 3rd rounder on him. I like this video of him by the way

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dryheat44

Something about his athleticism tells me he'd do well in the Pats scheme. He suffered that bad knee injury last January, so I don't know how well it has recovered vs. how well it will be come August. I would like to see a little more nasty out of him, though. I have him right now as my #2 rated OT, although he's a considerable drop from Long.

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dryheat44

I'm not sure how much different the OLBs job is in a 1 gap or 2 gap 3-4. It seems like the real differences are with the DL and the ILBs. Granted, in Phillips defense, an OLB is rushing the passer every play, compared to Belichick's where their job gets more complex. However, I don't think Gholston is that one-dimensional that he can't play contain or cover a running back. I think he's the best DE ---> 3-4 OLB conversion project to come out in a few years now...better than Wimberly, who I previously thought. I like him better than Spencer last year...and I was a huge Spencer fan.

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ayjackson

Though you must admit, Seb has a point. Would BB invest the pick and $6m per year in Gholston as a coversion project? He has shown some aversion to conversion projects of this nature before, and the money that goes along with it almost seems prohibitive.