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Old 02-03-2011, 04:40 PM   #1
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I suspect that this could very well be Belichick's Plan B (if Light is not re-signed), with a rookie pushing Kaczur, as Vollmer did when he was drafted.
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I suspect that this could very well be Belichick's Plan B (if Light is not re-signed), with a rookie pushing Kaczur, as Vollmer did when he was drafted.
Who plays right and left guard?

To me this would be a worst case scenario, in 2010 the team had good stability on offense. If they lose 2 pro bowl starters from the offensive line then they lose an opportunity to continue the re-build of the defense.
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Who plays right and left guard?

To me this would be a worst case scenario, in 2010 the team had good stability on offense. If they lose 2 pro bowl starters from the offensive line then they lose an opportunity to continue the re-build of the defense.
Vollmer/Wendell/Koppen/Connolly/Kaczur

Or Mankins at LG if he's resigned. That line right there is begging for half a season of Hoyer.
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What's the matter? The OL thread in the main forum moving too fast to follow?
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I suspect that this could very well be Belichick's Plan B (if Light is not re-signed), with a rookie pushing Kaczur, as Vollmer did when he was drafted.
I have to wonder just what shape Kazcur returns in. Backs are very tricky things and I think his injury was severe.

Lots of options at tackle for BB to consider.

But my main premise remains, if Light does not agree to a team friendly deal, BB lets him walk.

Of all the OT's I have seen, the one I like the best is Lee Ziemba of Auburn. Not pretty, but not a finesse guy either. Flat back mauler that moves the pile backwards. In pass coverage he has decent feet and can mirror well. A little trouble sinking the hips due to his length, but that helps him push speed rushers past the QB.

I would love for BB to take him with the Vikings pick and plug him in at ROT for the next decade.
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I suspect that this could very well be Belichick's Plan B (if Light is not re-signed), with a rookie pushing Kaczur, as Vollmer did when he was drafted.
mgteich I'm going to agree with you on this. BB philosphy (from what I can tell and some people refer to) its better to dump a player a year early then a year late. And I think Light might fall into this category.

You have it right and I'll add to it.. I see 2 out of the top 5 picks being used on OL, competing with Kaczur and Neal/Connelly and Mankins either being franchised or resigned.

Your offense line could look like this

LT - Vollmer
LG - Mankins
C - Koppen (Maybe a rookie Center)
RG - Neal/Connelly/ **Koppen???
RT - Kaczur / Rookie

What are the thoughts of sliding Koppen to RG if we draft a Center? Just a thought but he'd add depth to the position if we did this (long shot I know but an idea)

And with Crumpler and Gronk, they could definitely assist a Rookie RT if he had issues.
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mgteich I'm going to agree with you on this. BB philosphy (from what I can tell and some people refer to) its better to dump a player a year early then a year late. And I think Light might fall into this category.

You have it right and I'll add to it.. I see 2 out of the top 5 picks being used on OL, competing with Kaczur and Neal/Connelly and Mankins either being franchised or resigned.

Your offense line could look like this

LT - Vollmer
LG - Mankins
C - Koppen (Maybe a rookie Center)
RG - Neal/Connelly/ **Koppen???
RT - Kaczur / Rookie

What are the thoughts of sliding Koppen to RG if we draft a Center? Just a thought but he'd add depth to the position if we did this (long shot I know but an idea)

And with Crumpler and Gronk, they could definitely assist a Rookie RT if he had issues.
Hmmmm..... IDK. It just feels to me like we need more power, as well as elite technical competence, at both the RG spot and center. Koppen, Wendell and Ohrnberger all fall around 6'2"/295 and that just doesn't seem to be enough heft for RG anymore, and maybe not even for center. Connolly is 6'4"/313, which seems more like it size-wise for RG at least, but then there's the question of elite technical competence. Neal is a pretty beat up 34-year-old (35 in early October) and I think the odds are about 65:35 he retires.
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Hmmmm..... IDK. It just feels to me like we need more power, as well as elite technical competence, at both the RG spot and center. Koppen, Wendell and Ohrnberger all fall around 6'2"/295 and that just doesn't seem to be enough heft for RG anymore, and maybe not even for center. Connolly is 6'4"/313, which seems more like it size-wise for RG at least, but then there's the question of elite technical competence. Neal is a pretty beat up 34-year-old (35 in early October) and I think the odds are about 65:35 he retires.

Agree Neal is probably more likely to retire
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I don't see many centers we would draft beating out Koppen. After all, consider that Collmer didn't start in his rookie year. I do want to draft a center to compete this year and in 2012.

Koppen is in the last year of his contract. I don't think that he is a better RG than a C. My BOOTOM LINE on the OC position is that we need to draft a center to compete with Koppen, But Koppen will be either the starting or backup center this year.

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mgteich I'm going to agree with you on this. BB philosphy (from what I can tell and some people refer to) its better to dump a player a year early then a year late. And I think Light might fall into this category.

You have it right and I'll add to it.. I see 2 out of the top 5 picks being used on OL, competing with Kaczur and Neal/Connelly and Mankins either being franchised or resigned.

Your offense line could look like this

LT - Vollmer
LG - Mankins
C - Koppen (Maybe a rookie Center)
RG - Neal/Connelly/ **Koppen???
RT - Kaczur / Rookie

What are the thoughts of sliding Koppen to RG if we draft a Center? Just a thought but he'd add depth to the position if we did this (long shot I know but an idea)

And with Crumpler and Gronk, they could definitely assist a Rookie RT if he had issues.

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