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Old 01-09-2008, 07:15 PM   #1
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I think we would be sitting pretty if we traded the 7th overall pick to Miami for the 32nd, 57th and 64th overall picks.

This would give us picks 32, 57, 63, 64 and 69.

We could come away with:

32. Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
57. Beau Bell, ILB, UNLV
63. Anthony Collins, OT, Kansas
64. Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
69. Ezra Butler, ILB, Nevada

Those look like they could be five quality starters one day. Would Miami trade with us? Million dollar question. If both Parcells and Belichick thought they could benefit from it, they would. Two guys who don't care about the rules, only what they think is best for their team. If Parcells did this, he'd have to trade the number one pick backwards as well to add more picks. That would be the tough part.

Probably couldn't happen, but it would be nice to see.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:13 PM   #2
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I think we would be sitting pretty if we traded the 7th overall pick to Miami for the 32nd, 57th and 64th overall picks.

This would give us picks 32, 57, 63, 64 and 69.

We could come away with:

32. Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
57. Beau Bell, ILB, UNLV
63. Anthony Collins, OT, Kansas
64. Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
69. Ezra Butler, ILB, Nevada

Those look like they could be five quality starters one day. Would Miami trade with us? Million dollar question. If both Parcells and Belichick thought they could benefit from it, they would. Two guys who don't care about the rules, only what they think is best for their team. If Parcells did this, he'd have to trade the number one pick backwards as well to add more picks. That would be the tough part.

Probably couldn't happen, but it would be nice to see.

I don't want to trade down that far. I don't think we need extra picks. We need 2-3 good def. players. I'm in agreement with the thread that says let's get our 1, higher 2 and oakland's 3 and go home. We might be able to get our pass-rusher, cb and ilb if we do it that way. Gamble on a rb and ol in rounds 4 and 5 or 5 and 6.
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I don't want to trade down that far. I don't think we need extra picks. We need 2-3 good def. players. I'm in agreement with the thread that says let's get our 1, higher 2 and oakland's 3 and go home. We might be able to get our pass-rusher, cb and ilb if we do it that way. Gamble on a rb and ol in rounds 4 and 5 or 5 and 6.
I liked that too - it's just that I'm not enamoured with the talent at the top of the draft and am really beginning to like the talent from the back half of the first round to the middle of the third.

Atlanta is another team we could strike a similar deal with to give us five picks from 32 to 69. I'd like to get two CBs and two ILBs. We can use our own third and/or fourth to improve the picks (sneak back into the first round) if need be.

Tell me Atlanta wouldn't love to add McFadden and Ryan/Brohm in the first round.
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I liked that too - it's just that I'm not enamoured with the talent at the top of the draft and am really beginning to like the talent from the back half of the first round to the middle of the third.

Atlanta is another team we could strike a similar deal with to give us five picks from 32 to 69. I'd like to get two CBs and two ILBs. We can use our own third and/or fourth to improve the picks (sneak back into the first round) if need be.

Tell me Atlanta wouldn't love to add McFadden and Ryan/Brohm in the first round.
That would be a PR dream for them. How bout 7 for their 2nd this year and 1st next year? Then we have our 2nd favorite in-season activity next year. Rooting against a team so we get a higher draft pick.
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I don't want to trade down that far. I don't think we need extra picks. We need 2-3 good def. players. I'm in agreement with the thread that says let's get our 1, higher 2 and oakland's 3 and go home. We might be able to get our pass-rusher, cb and ilb if we do it that way. Gamble on a rb and ol in rounds 4 and 5 or 5 and 6.

it's true that we need 2-3 good players but with top picks don't forget you are paying for potential that may not work out. I'd rather trade down for value unless we feel there is a high reward/low risk prospect at the # 7 spot. I feel it's better to spend the money on a free agent who has proven themselves already. Otherwise, we lose alot of money on a potential bust. With multiple lower picks the odds are in your favor of picking up at least one or two good ones and less penalty if you miss on the picks although I trust in BB, Pioli and Co. since they have done well picking high with Seymour, Warren, etc. The other argument may be that the free agent market for LBs and CBs may not be that great this year so it's something that BB/Pioli has to consider too.
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it's true that we need 2-3 good players but with top picks don't forget you are paying for potential that may not work out. I'd rather trade down for value unless we feel there is a high reward/low risk prospect at the # 7 spot. I feel it's better to spend the money on a free agent who has proven themselves already. Otherwise, we lose alot of money on a potential bust. With multiple lower picks the odds are in your favor of picking up at least one or two good ones and less penalty if you miss on the picks although I trust in BB, Pioli and Co. since they have done well picking high with Seymour, Warren, etc. The other argument may be that the free agent market for LBs and CBs may not be that great this year so it's something that BB/Pioli has to consider too.
Another thing to factor in this free-agent season is that a lot of teams are well under the cap. The only guys we will probably be able to get are vets who want a shot at the ring. A guy like Seau. Doubt we can afford someone like A.Thomas this year. Or, even keep A.Samuel for that matter.
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I would love to see New England trade back for multiple mid round picks this year, second to third round.
They can resign Moss, Extend Samuel, Work on Big Vince's new deal, Keep Mankins happy.
Then Draft linebackers and Db's and i'd be incredibly happy with that scenario.
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I to want to trade down and get quality youth on Defense. I think the most likely bet would be either the Panthers, Bears, or Lions trading up for the 7th pick if they want a QB, assuming one is taken by Atlanta, and they feel Baltimore will grab the next best one at number 8. That trade would put us in the 13-15 range and possibly a second of some scenario.....We could save money, get a good LB/DB first and go from there.
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Let's ask Mesoslo what we should do with the #7 pick.
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That would be a PR dream for them. How bout 7 for their 2nd this year and 1st next year? Then we have our 2nd favorite in-season activity next year. Rooting against a team so we get a higher draft pick.
I REALLY like the sound of this proposal for ATL.
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