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blh,
Other then a rueful headshake, what specifics against Bradley could your friend articulate...and was he thinking of him from a 4-3 or 3-4 perspective? Reportedly Bradley was visiting Baltimore and San Diego, both teams whose prowess as picking linebackers has some credibility. I will say that I absolutely hate the idea of taking him in the first, but until BB manages a trade back, I see no other option if the team really wanted him.

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blh0240

my friends' knock on him was the he plays too slow for the nfl. i can't really argue since I've only seen his highlight clips, but my friend thought carriker would make a better LB than bradley-at 290 lbs. bradleys combine numbers/workout reviews are strong, so I could definetly see the pats taking him if he were around in rd 3, or even trading up to T3/B2 if BB saw what he wanted. and yeah, I would have that same feeling about taking any LB not named willis at 24. 28 maybe for beason/harris. although id rather trade down to the second/pickup another 3/4 for our troubles and grab whichever guy is still on the board. don't get me wrong. i like beason/harris as LB for the pats. its just a question of value

sebman2112

I'm a Nebraska fan, trust me Stewart Bradley doesn't play to slow for the NFL. He's actually got pretty decent speed for a guy his size, so that opinion seems pretty funny.

For BOR's sake I'm not getting into Carriker at LB

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PATSNUTme

I have a friend, who has a friend, who is an Ole Miss fan. He says that Patrick Willis is totally awesome and we should trade our entire draft for him if we need to.

patchick

OK...but by the same token, I'd guess that the Pats will not take:
- an OT at 24 or 28 unless Staley falls
- a DE at 24 or 28 unless Carriker falls
- a WR at 24 or 28 unless Meachem falls
etc.

Since you make Willis an exception, it seems like what you're really saying is you think he's the only legitimate first-round talent at the position. Which is a very reasonable opinion, but a little different from what I expected from the title of the post. Is it more about how the draft board shakes out than about the position?

DW Toys

We might get him if we move up to a high three from our lower three as yesterdays stuff just cost Mr. Merriweather a ton of $ IMO. No way he is a number one this year.
DW Toys

dryheat44

To me he looks not so much slow, but slightly awkward and non-instinctive (maybe what he meant by playing slow). I've had very limited viewings though.

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dryheat44

Unfortuately, I think it very unlikely legit first round talent will be available at 24. I don't think there's more than 20 guys who grade out as a first rounder, and that's including guys who are a bad fit.

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sebman2112

There does seem to be a little drop off after the top 17-18 guys. Last year's draft might have spoiled us a little, though.

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Metaphors

Almost certain to be gone before #24
1) Russell
2) Quinn
3) J.Thomas
4) C.Johnson
5) Peterson
6) G.Adams
7) Landry
8) L.Brown
9) A.Branch
10) Okoye
11) Willis
12) J.Anderson
13) Carriker
14) R.Nelson
15) L.Hall

Almost certain to be 1st round
16) Lynch
17) G.Olsen
18) Ginn
19) J.Moss
20) Revis

There are your 20 guys with 1st round grades. I think there is a solid group following this where the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This is the group that will be successful depending on the system they are put into...which may be what you were driving at.

Reasonable chance to be 1st round
21) Bowe
22) Timmons
23) Posluszny
24) C.Johnson
25) Grubbs
26) Spencer
27) C.Houston
28) A.Ross
29) Beason
30) Meacham
31) Harrell
32) Blalock
33) Staley
34) Kalil
35) Jarrett
36) Griffen
37) Merriweather
38) McCauley

Staley and Harrell seem to be gaining some momentum, at least in the media reports (whatever that is worth). But even that is likely not enough to push one of the "elites" down to 24. Except for Lynch which doesn't do us much good except for trading down. So while I initially disagreed with your premise, I kind of see your point now. Either live with that 2nd tier of players (Houston and Griffen wouldn't be so bad) or trade out to the 2nd round for value.