What is Carriker's value on the team? - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums

Warren94 · 04-09-2007, 03:55 PM

That is one sick front 7

up next secondary...

WhiZa · 04-09-2007, 03:57 PM

Even if the team sticks with a 3-4 the 3rd down pass rush would be amazing with Green and Carriker on the outside. Warren only has 2 years left so drafting Carriker could give the Pats some leverage when resigning Warren or grooming a replacement (if needed).

***ctpatsfan77*** · 04-09-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by patchick

A fine point indeed.

Would that be the single biggest front 7 of all time? With 270-lb Thomas the quick coverage specialist?

Even better still:

Seymour - Warren - Wilfork - Wright - Carriker

with Thomas as LB and a dime package. . . . This would be the "Just Try and Run" package.

***BelichickFan*** · 04-09-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by patchick

I'm a Carriker fan too, but to follow your line of reasoning...doesn't Belichick remember what happened when Seau went down last year, or before Bruschi was back?

Well, first we've already upgraded our LB going from TBC to Thomas. Second, I know Belichick has had some notable misses on veteran LB but with Seau, Hartwell, and the like sitting out there as UFA I think Belichick would much prefer to upgrade the DL yet another level and bring in some cheap depth at LB.

bakes781 · 04-09-2007, 04:02 PM

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That is one sick front 7

up next secondary...

The choice at 28 would likely come down to Meriweather, Griffin & Rouse at S or Ross, Hughes & McCauley at CB.

What I like about Meriweather is his versatility to play CB as well as S.

VJCPatriot · 04-09-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sebman2112

I'm going to leave Willis out of the discussion, and just talk about Carriker (You all know what I think about Willis). Anyways, I think bringing up NE's shifting to a 4-3 front needs to be brought up when talking about Carriker.

NE plays both fronts, and having Carriker on the team would give them a 4-3 front of:
Seymour Wilfork Warren Carriker
Thomas Bruschi Colvin
or

Seymour Wilfork Warren Carriker
Thomas Bruschi Vrabel

or

Seymour Wilfork Warren Carriker
Colvin Bruschi Thomas

or

Seymour Wilfork Warren Carriker
Colvin Thomas Vrabel

Nuff said. If Carriker is there at 24 I don't see any hesitation in BB putting his name in the envelope. Adding Carriker to this defense would make it even more brutal up front and allow BB to scheme even more dastardly "looks" up front as well as keeping our DLine fresh with quality rotation.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 04-09-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by patchick

I'm a Carriker fan too, but to follow your line of reasoning...doesn't Belichick remember what happened when Seau went down last year, or before Bruschi was back?

You aren't by any chance assuming Willis as a 3-4 ILB is that much better than Posluszny or Harris or Bradley, as opposed to the difference between Carriker and the next 3-4 DE candidate on people's list?

***patchick*** · 04-09-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

You aren't by any chance assuming Willis as a 3-4 ILB is that much better than Posluszny or Harris or Bradley, as opposed to the difference between Carriker and the next 3-4 DE candidate on people's list?

Nope, I'm not --- as you can tell by the fact that I said I'd take Carriker.

I was just picking at BelichickFan's argument because...umm...because it was there. (My father is legendary for making a provocative claim and, if he discovers that everyone agrees with him, seamlessly switching sides to argue against himself.)

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 04-09-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by patchick

Nope, I'm not --- as you can tell by the fact that I said I'd take Carriker.

I was just picking at BelichickFan's argument because...umm...because it was there. (My father is legendary for making a provocative claim and, if he discovers that everyone agrees with him, seamlessly switching sides to argue against himself.)

May your daughter find many cartoon Carrikers in her dreams, and (maybe, pending your good behavior) not pick up any of grandpa's habits to annoy mom!

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 04-10-2007, 02:13 PM

Call me crazy but Adam Carriker looks and plays like a young Jack Ham - I Like the kid.