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Old 01-27-2010, 09:09 AM   #11
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Well, Julio Jones and A.J. Green should be coming out next year, so I would like to save a high draft pick for either one of those guys (both of whom capable of replacing Moss). This season, we have one more year left with Moss. With that in mind, I would like to see the team try to make a play for a WR through free agency or trade. Bryant sounds really good and it appears as though he's grown past his immaturity. Jackson would look extremely good and I would pine for him as well if I didn't think that San Diego was going to do everything they could to retain him. I also wouldn't mind seeing Branch back, however he is further down the list considering his injury history.

On top of that, I really hope we get to see what Tate is capable of in this offense next season.
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:18 AM   #12
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i would say free agency but i dont see anyone that really intrigues me
i mean i could say VJ but the chargers wont let him go
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I really don't want to see us using valuable draft picks to acquire veteran WRs. I do, however, believe that we need veterans more than more rookies.

I would like to do 2 things:

1. Pick up a veteran FA WR, perhaps even 2. The 2 potential "elite" guys are Antonio Bryant (a UFA) and Malcolm Floyd (a RFA so probably unlikely, unless San Diego is unable to tender him because of all their other resignings; again, I doubt this happens). The 2 low-end guys who could immediately help are Deion Branch and Donte Stallworth, because they know the system and have rapport with Brady.

2. Pick up a late round developmental WR. Freddie Barnes would be ideal. Jacoby Ford might be an option.

The use our draft picks on defense, OL, and perhaps an offensive playmaker like CJ Spiller, Jahvid Best or Dexter McCluster.
I didn't have my eye on Malcolm Floyd, but I wasn't really impressed with what I saw out of him in the Jets game. IMO, after he got upended by Leonard, he started to alligator arm the little amount of passes that were thrown his way afterward.
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:25 AM   #14
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Other than Deion Branch, I see nothing at all in free agency, because the RFAs mean giving up multiple draft picks. Bryant is a head case who will command a huge salary for what he gives us. No thanks. He's not going to ask for a midline contract.

The draft has a ton of WRs available, and if you play your cards right and make a few trades (trade Adalius Thomas for a 4th, trade out of 2011 for a pick, maybe trade down from the first round) you might have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds, which gives you plenty of space to grab DEs and OLBs and also two receivers.

I say you definitely grab a WR in the second round, and guys like Arrelious Benn and Brandon LaFell and Damian Williams and Mardy Gilyard will be available. Then you grab another in the fourth round, and guys like Jacoby Ford and Marcus Easley should be available. For good measure you grab one in the 6th round too!

That still allows you to grab three pass rushers, a guard, a tight end and an ILB in the first 4 rounds.

I will not complain at all if we go DE/OLB, ILB, DE/OLB with 3 of our early picks, but I'd like to see a WR mixed in there as well. From then on, we start to fill needs at G, TE, and WR.

(I'm obviously assuming Watson isn't coming back).
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Whichever way the Pats go - and I'd prefer FA and the draft to trades - I don't care as much if the guy is a consistent, speedy deep threat, as long as he can

- get off the LoS quickly, especially through the jam
- run crisp and correct routes
- get enough (not necessarily "enormous") separation
- make smart route adjustments, find the open spot at the right time
- make good adjustments to the ball in the air, extend, grab it with strong hands, shield the catch from defenders
- turn upfield for at least a couple of yards
- understand how to break off his own route to block when the pass goes to someone else and is a willing blocker (Moss is good at this)

If we can get five WRs like this on the roster, along with at least one TE and a couple of RBs who can perform similarly, it will be rare that at least one of them isn't open. The chains will keep moving.

I mean, I look at the multiple legitimate pass-catching threats that Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Favre, Warner, etc. have on the field in every formation and I think, "No wonder."
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I have long been on record as saying save the Raidahs pick for AJ Green, he is that good!

The Pats do need to bring in a WR or 2. Let's face it, it looks more and nmore like Welker is going to start next year on the PUP. I loved the Tate pick last year, and was bummed when he got hurt again. Let's hope that he can recover.


I'm all for bringin back Dieon if he gets released.
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How do you think the Pats should go about addressing their need at WR?
Antonio Bryant - if he's now a team player - no room for poor attitudes
Deion Branch - if there's anything left in the tank
Golden Tate - the Weis offense
Eric Decker - very polished, highly productive, considered NFL ready
Andre Roberts - Citadel - small school sleeper, also highly productive and consistent. Very impressive at Senior Bowl
Brandon Tate - was drafted for a reason

I think BB will sign AND draft a WR.

Terrific post BTW.
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I would welcome Branch back in a heartbeat and I would sign Reed as well.

As for the draft, if Tate falls to us in the second, I think BB should jump all over him.
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Whichever way the Pats go - and I'd prefer FA and the draft to trades - I don't care as much if the guy is a consistent, speedy deep threat, as long as he can

- get off the LoS quickly, especially through the jam
- run crisp and correct routes
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- turn upfield for at least a couple of yards
- understand how to break off his own route to block when the pass goes to someone else and is a willing blocker (Moss is good at this)

If we can get five WRs like this on the roster, along with at least one TE and a couple of RBs who can perform similarly, it will be rare that at least one of them isn't open. The chains will keep moving.

I mean, I look at the multiple legitimate pass-catching threats that Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Favre, Warner, etc. have on the field in every formation and I think, "No wonder."
Quick Twitch and great decision making on option routes. That is what BB is primarily looking for in WR's.
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Antonio Bryant - if he's now a team player - no room for poor attitudes
Deion Branch - if there's anything left in the tank
Golden Tate - the Weis offense
Eric Decker - very polished, highly productive, considered NFL ready
Andre Roberts - Citadel - small school sleeper, also highly productive and consistent. Very impressive at Senior Bowl
Brandon Tate - was drafted for a reason

I think BB will sign AND draft a WR.

Terrific post BTW.
Thanks. I like that list of options. I find it hard to believe we'll be willing to give Bryant the money he wants. I don't see too many options for us in free agency unless Branch and Stallworth are cut. I'm personally becoming a big fan of Benn in the 2nd round. I wonder if Tate could possibly fall to 42 or would KC snatch him at the beginning of Round 2 to give Cassel a good weapon along with Bowe who Weis has experience coaching.
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