ctpatsfan77

"The New England Patriots have traded the first of their second-round selections to the Chicago Bears for the Bears' third-round pick in 2010 and their first-round pick in 2011."

Anyone else with me?

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maverick4

Is this specific for wanting the Bears pick, or you just want to see them roll over and pick up another future 1st?

ctpatsfan77

Bears in particular. They've really screwed the pooch: not only did they overpay for Cutler, and are now basically stuck with him, but they also traded away their second in 2010 for one of the Bucs' DLs. If that doesn't sound like low-hanging fruit, I'm not sure what would.

As for other offers, I'm not sure if anyone will offer, knowing the Pats already have one extra first-rounder, nor am I sure that the Pats would accept if someone did (Reiss, I think, reported that they were offered a first in 2010 for one of their high picks this year, but turned it down). In any case, I wouldn't be averse to it, especially if the Pats picked up a third-rounder in the process.

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Metaphors

I like the thinking. My draft binky in 2009 was the Panthers' 2010 1st round pick. The Panthers didn't have a 1st, Fox on the hot seat...it just made too much sense. And Delhomme was sure to blow up their season (though even I underestimated his suckage). In fact, it is likely he threw a pick during this post.

I'm not sure yet about trading out of the 2010 1st round. If the expect flood of juniors come out, a late 1st/early 2nd could be an amazing value. I'm inclined to get some help at #32 this year and start the "pay it forward" cycle again in 2010 (use the early 1st, trade the later 1st into the next year, rinse and repeat). But it is still early and lots can still happen.

ctpatsfan77

As I said. . . .

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Metaphors

I know, but it looks more like that pick will be in the 40's now. Assuming a draft salary scale in 2011, trading down from 42 to 75 won't get you a 2011 1st round pick from a team that isn't even a probable playoff team. Trading 42 straight up might get it done but I'm not even sure about that. So I substituted the Pats pick at #32 in your equation instead.

I think the salary scale is going to make 1st round picks like gold moving forward (which is the way they should be). A GM would need to have a fairly loose grip on reality and absolutely no football sense to trade away a 2011 1st round pick.

Ochmed Jones

With 18 or 19 FA at the end of the year. I think BB's draft will be tied to what happens with those players.

If BB loses a bunch, he may need that extra second round pick.

I BB resigns most of those players, then BB needs to trade the Pats 1st this year, all three 2nd rounders and their first in next years draft and walk away with Mount Cody and McClain on day one.

mayoclinic

I think that with the depth in this draft that there's a good chance BB uses all 4 picks. He already has 2 1st round picks in 2010, which may be a very thin draft because of the large number of juniors predicted to come out this year.

With that said, if someone likely to pick in the top 10 next year wants to trade for our 1st round pick or earliest 2nd, I'd strongly consider it. 2011 is likely to lack depth, but there should be a lot of blue chippers at the top (WR AJ Green WR Jonathan Baldwin, WR Michael Floyd, DE Robert Quinn, CB Patrick Peterson) and with a likely rookie salary scale the cost of a top 10 pick won't be prohibitive. I'd be thrilled to see us be able to get a WR with one pick and Robert Quinn or Patrick Peterson with the other.

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everlong

While I appreciate your man crush for Cody I would say the odds of that happening are 0%. There are very few absolutes in life but this is one.

Only chance we draft Cody is some team near the top ten actually bites on Wilfork and then we trade up to get him. And the odds of somebody that high paying the two firsts for him him is probably like .1%. I'd raise it if Snyder didn't already pay Haynesworth all that coin and if they played a 3-4.

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What's the difference between Brady and Manning?

Brady has a 14-3 career playoff record. Manning goes 14-3 every year.

reamer

Hah. We think way too much alike; those are exactly the guys I'm hoping to target in 2011.