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In the past we have always taken fliers on the disenchanted. Our team is relatively young at plenty of positions and there is no way we can keep even half of our draft picks on the roster, especially if we trade Cassel. Last year we were "older" and most every draft pick made the team over their respective FAs. We always trade for future picks too, but who will be this years' Moss, Welker, Dillon or Starks?
With ex Pats in several FOs it wouldnt surprise me to see some wheelin and dealin as the Broncos and Chiefs purge vets. BTW, how about trading Cassel and Maroney to KC for Huard, Gonzalez, LJ and their #2?
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In the past we have always taken fliers on the disenchanted. Our team is relatively young at plenty of positions and there is no way we can keep even half of our draft picks on the roster, especially if we trade Cassel. Last year we were "older" and most every draft pick made the team over their respective FAs. We always trade for future picks too, but who will be this years' Moss, Welker, Dillon or Starks?
With ex Pats in several FOs it wouldnt surprise me to see some wheelin and dealin as the Broncos and Chiefs purge vets. BTW, how about trading Cassel and Maroney to KC for Huard, Gonzalez, LJ and their #2?
I believe we'll have multiple 2,3,4 without a Cassel trade, but don't quote me. Samuel comp for a three, somebody a 4? (can't remember, it's late).
We will have too many picks to all make the team. Trade for future picks or trade up? I could see a veteran safety, but only a relatively young FA LB, we are too old at that position IMO. A solid affordable blocking TE or linemean maybe.
That trade with KC would be terrible! Why would you want a worn down Larry Johnson? Tony Gonzalez would be ok but he wouldn't be included in a trade with Cassel. At 33, Gonzalez is worth a 4th at best. Maroney has one more year to prove himself and he is cheap. The Pats are a passing first team, but the RB's they have now are pretty damn good. With all their injuries to RB, they still rushed for an average of over 140 yards per game. Cassel will be traded for picks, not players.
But to answer your first question, I don't see the Pats trading for any player.
player for player trades are very rare, but I would consider trading cassel for gonzalez plus KC's 2nd rounder and whatever else it would take to make it a balanced trade
I believe we'll have multiple 2,3,4 without a Cassel trade, but don't quote me. Samuel comp for a three, somebody a 4? (can't remember, it's late).
Trade for future picks or trade up?
I would be very, very surprised if the Pats don't trade a day one pick this year for a day one pick next year, since, if the Pats do as well as we think they can, they will have a hard time signing UFAs next year (thanks to the CBA poison pills).
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I would be very, very surprised if the Pats don't trade a day one pick this year for a day one pick next year, since, if the Pats do as well as we think they can, they will have a hard time signing UFAs next year (thanks to the CBA poison pills).
I got to agree with you on BB stashing a 2010 chip. Mayock and Davis were saying that finding trading partnes is going to be difficult in this draft, but in the past BB has moved about the draft effortlessly. It seems the deeper the draft, the less BB moves.
I would be very, very surprised if the Pats don't trade a day one pick this year for a day one pick next year, since, if the Pats do as well as we think they can, they will have a hard time signing UFAs next year (thanks to the CBA poison pills).
Not necessarily. They won't be able to sign one until they lose one. Losing free agents has never been a difficult task for this team...and we have many contracts up after next year.
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Not necessarily. They won't be able to sign one until they lose one. Losing free agents has never been a difficult task for this team...and we have many contracts up after next year.
But also note this provision:
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so long as the Player Contract for the New Player shall have a first year Salary of no more than the first year Salary of the Player Contract signed by the Previous Player with the New Club, and an annual increase in any future contract years of no more than 30% of the first contract year Salary, excluding any amounts attributable to any signing bonus.
In other words, not only would the Pats not be able to sign a true UFA until one of theirs signed with another team, but they would also have to sign the new player to a smaller contract.
It also makes no provisions for retiring players, either.
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how about trading Cassel and Maroney to KC for Huard, Gonzalez, LJ and their #2?
What a horrible idea! It makes no sense to trade a prize commodity for a #2 pick plus a JAG, an injured 30 year old RB with personal issues, and a 33 year old tight end.
Unless we are trading Cassel for a top tier player (e.g, Julius Peppers) we should be getting premium draft picks for him.
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