KillEM

With a lot of picks in this years draft, and not many needs to fill... What are the chances?


It becoming VERY clear that our pash rush is even worst than our secondary (which has looked pretty good, except for Deltha ONeal)


Assuming we end up with a pick in the 20+... could we trade up and get a OLB pass rush demon like Orakpo or Selvie at #10? What would we have to give up?

This years 1st rd and possibly our later 2nd or 3rd rd pick?

This makes the most sense to me as our only needs are really OLB and OT... we have Mayo and Guyton at ILB, who are both young studs.

RT can be addressed in rd2, as RT's are not usually 1st round selections.
CB/S can be addressed in rd3.

Tyler.Durden

Lots of teams will be looking to deal top picks because of how much money teams are having to pay them. Pats are unlikely to trade up imo. We may trade for a player already in the league with a track record.

BB hates paying these rookies pro-bowl contracts without ever playing a snap in the nfl.

BritPat

I disagree. As well as OT and OLB worries, I'd say we need a TE, maybe some secondary help (Rodney might be done, and you can never have enough good cornerbacks) and possibly a running back depending on the situation come FA time. Maroney isn't exactly setting the world alight, and Jordan is only on a one year deal.

I'd also say we need some youth at OG/C too.

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BritPat

Also, about trading up - The Jags gave up two 3rds and a 4th to move from 26 to 8 to pick Derrick Harvey, so your assessment of white we might need to give up is probably not far off.

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KillEM

Yeah, Let's take ANOTHER TE in the 1st rd

Mindaswell spend our next 5 picks on FullBacks and Long Snappers.

Fencer

I don't agree that we're low on needs. They include but are not limited to:

RT -- always
P -- although admittedly that's mid-round
DE -- Seymour will be gone soon
NT -- always
S -- probably
RB -- depending on who stays; the only locks to be back are a fragile Maroney and an aging Faulk, and Morris is evidently fragile too
ILB -- assume Mayo and Guyton are the future, and Bruschi stays on as a role player. There's still room for more.
OLB -- if Pierre Woods goes the way of Tully Banta-Cain, there's room for one more.

KillEM

Excuse the sarcasm in that last post. But we don't need any more role players, we need an IMPACT player at OLB.

Vrabel is on his last legs. He looks worst than ever. He has 1-2 years left in him at most.

Adalius Thomas isn't the terror we expected him to be. He's been average in our defense. Nothing more. He looks lost when rushing the passer and can go an entire game without laying a finger on the QB. He's also getting up there in age.

Either way, even if they were playing good (which they are not) we would still need another young OLB to groom since they will both be gone soon. OLB is one of the most important positions in the 3-4 defense along with NT. Right now our OLBs look like the weakest part of our D.

A George Selvie/Brian Orakpo type prospect could change our defense from good to scary good. Look at the impact Merriman and Ware had for their teams 3-4 defense.


Our secondary is very young. Hobbs is a starter and Wheatley should be starting by next year too. Meriweather and Sanders are both starters and will continue to be starters on our defense for a long time. Wilhite is our future nickel. So we just need back ups/depth at this point for CB/S. That can be addressed on day 2 of the draft.


OLine - all we need is a RT. Then we can shift Kaczur inside to RG. RT can be found in round 2. A really good 34 OLB is rare and far more valuable than RT. Our line is a lot better than ppl give them credit for. Brady only got sacked 20 times last year with that line.



Whatever the case... NO MORE TIGHT ENDS ON DAY 1!!

BritPat

I didn't say take a TE in the first round. I said it was a need, so we need as many picks as possible.

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KillEM

RT -- I dont know what you guys expect really... 90% of teams in the league have RT's that can be upgraded. Most RTs are LTs who couldnt make it on the blindside covering the speed rusher. Almost every team could upgrade at RT, but doesnt. There are VERY few teams that have studs at both LT and RT.

DE -- We'll address it with a 1st rounder when we get there. No use in using a 2nd-3rd round pick on a DE and then using a 1st on another DE when Seymour leaves.

NT -- We have Wilfork.

S -- Depth is all we need. Belicheck will more than likely find a veteran Safety. I doubt he would want 3 young, inexperienced players back there.
Ventrone and Slater can also play Safety and I'm sure Belicheck isn't afraid to use them there as evident by his history with putting Troy Brown in the secondary.

RB -- This is not a need at all. Morris is under contract for a couple more years. So is Maroney. Benjarvus Green Ellis could turn into a HUGE steal considering he went undrafted. Faulk is old but he has low mileage on his tires and should hold up another couple of years. It will be a need in a couple years, but right now it would be a mistake to draft another RB because then we would have to cut BGE who could turn out to be very good.

ILB -- If Guyton progresses to a starting role and Belicheck is satisfied with him... I doubt we use a high pick on another LB. And our history with late round LBs is not impressive at all. Oscar Lua, Ruud, that 5th rounder from a few years back. None of these guys even make the team.



Ofcourse it would be great to have as much depth as the Pro Bowl squads but let's be realistic.

Patjew

Pats always seem to move around alot in the draft. I'm not sure how common that it with other teams, because I don't care about them.

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