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Old 02-02-2013, 11:16 AM   #11
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I posted this in the blueprint thread. Figured it's a better fit here and moved it here.

It seems the opinion of many posters that's it's crazy to draft a wr in the first. Why the aversion to drafting a wr with a first? I submit the following champions. I don't want to go Matt Millen and draft em every year. But, as the evidence shows. Targeting and drafting one can help you win a championship.

72-73 Dolphins - Traded a 1st 3rd overall for Paul Warfield.
70'S Steelers - Drafted Lynn Swann 21st overall in 74 and won 4 of next 6.
82-91 Redskins - 3X Champs had Art Monk a 1st Rounder in 1980 18th overall.
88-94 49'ers - Traded up with our Pats in 85 after already winning 2 Super Bowls
and drafted Jerry Rice. Won 3 more.
90's Cowboys - Michael Irvin 88 and Alvin Harper 91 were 1st Rounders. Won 3.
99 Rams - Drafted Tory Holt in the first.
06 Colts - Marvin Harrison 96 and Reggie Wayne in 01.
08 Steelers - Santonio Holmes is a major douche bag. But, he did help them win
a Super Bowl.
11 NYG - Hakeem Nicks in 2009.
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What about Tavon Austin from West Virginia? He is extremely versatile; he can run out of the slot and make plays after the catch, he has the speed to stretch the field deep, he can be an electrifying return man and he can even run it out of the backfield. To me he just screams a player that Bill would love to have. Hes a plug him in anywhere and he will make a play type of player. The only knock on him is his size but I don't know if I would be too worried about that.
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What about Tavon Austin from West Virginia? He is extremely versatile; he can run out of the slot and make plays after the catch, he has the speed to stretch the field deep, he can be an electrifying return man and he can even run it out of the backfield. To me he just screams a player that Bill would love to have. Hes a plug him in anywhere and he will make a play type of player. The only knock on him is his size but I don't know if I would be too worried about that.
He reminds me of Desean Jackson with his size speed combo. He would also be an excellent contributor on special teams returns. The only knock on him is size but he's got the same height build as Wes Welker just with more pure speed.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:52 PM   #14
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if we let welker go id be happy with tavon austin in the mid 2nd if we could trade down i dont think a 1st round pick is worth it for him but he realy is electrifying
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Not a draft expert, so I ask you..

I think we need a #1 WR like Fitzgerald or Moss (2007 version, of course).
As a slot WR we have Welker, Edelman or we can sign Amendola (not the same thing, I know..)

Which prospect do you see as most similar as Fitz? On the contrary which is a Welker - type?

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:10 AM   #16
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Not a draft expert, so I ask you..

I think we need a #1 WR like Fitzgerald or Moss (2007 version, of course).
As a slot WR we have Welker, Edelman or we can sign Amendola (not the same thing, I know..)

Which prospect do you see as most similar as Fitz? On the contrary which is a Welker - type?

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Randy Moss = Justin Hunter

Fitz = DeAndre Hopkins

Reggie Wayne = Robert Woods or Quinton Patton

Welker = TJ Moe, Ryan Swope

Mike Wallace = Marquise Goodwin (possibly), Markus Wheaton

Those are very basic approximations and I'm only comparing playing style and not necessarily ability.
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Randy Moss = Justin Hunter

Fitz = DeAndre Hopkins

Reggie Wayne = Robert Woods or Quinton Patton

Welker = TJ Moe, Ryan Swope

Mike Wallace = Marquise Goodwin (possibly), Markus Wheaton

Those are very basic approximations and I'm only comparing playing style and not necessarily ability.
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I've not really watched him enough but I've seen him compared to Julio Jones in terms of playing style.
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Randy Moss = Justin Hunter

Fitz = DeAndre Hopkins

Reggie Wayne = Robert Woods or Quinton Patton

Welker = TJ Moe, Ryan Swope

Mike Wallace = Marquise Goodwin (possibly), Markus Wheaton

Those are very basic approximations and I'm only comparing playing style and not necessarily ability.
Thanks.

Saw highlights of Hopkins and Hunter. Impressive.

Projected pick? Mid - end 1st round?
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Saw highlights of Hopkins and Hunter. Impressive.

Projected pick? Mid - end 1st round?
Hunter's currently projected in the 2nd round but will probably rise following the combine. Hopkins is projected anywhere from mid to late 1st to high 2nd.

There are some lwgitimate concerns about Hunter's character and consistency. Hopkins is probably the best WR in terms of route running and hands. My favourite is Markus Wheaton who combines good route running, good hands, downfield speed and the short area quickness that BB likes.
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