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Old 10-26-2012, 09:28 AM   #31
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Two guys I'll be keeping an eye on:

Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State 6'2'' 215 lbs. projected late 1st to mid 2nd.
Ideal size. His speed isn't great but it is sufficient. Plays press coverage at FSU so is already familiar the technique. Tape of him turning and looking for the ball, hopefully that doesnt take him off our board. some injury concerns i havent looked much into.

Dee Milliner CB Bama 6'1'' 200lbs projected early 1st but it's early and he could drop down to late 1st depending on combine / pro day / etc. Has the Saban connection, I'd be interested to hear what Nick thought about Milliner vs Kirkpatrick.

Both guys have the size to play at the NFl level which is a requirement for a 1st round selection. I like the idea of McCourty / Wilson safety tandem. We need some elite speed at one safety spot. Big physical corners of Dowling and Milliner / Rhodes and Dennard in the slot. Sounds like an improvement over what we have now.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:36 AM   #32
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Two guys I'll be keeping an eye on:

Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State 6'2'' 215 lbs. projected late 1st to mid 2nd.
Ideal size. His speed isn't great but it is sufficient. Plays press coverage at FSU so is already familiar the technique. Tape of him turning and looking for the ball, hopefully that doesnt take him off our board. some injury concerns i havent looked much into.

Dee Milliner CB Bama 6'1'' 200lbs projected early 1st but it's early and he could drop down to late 1st depending on combine / pro day / etc. Has the Saban connection, I'd be interested to hear what Nick thought about Milliner vs Kirkpatrick.

Both guys have the size to play at the NFl level which is a requirement for a 1st round selection. I like the idea of McCourty / Wilson safety tandem. We need some elite speed at one safety spot. Big physical corners of Dowling and Milliner / Rhodes and Dennard in the slot. Sounds like an improvement over what we have now.
Rhodes seems kind of stiff to me, not so sure how he'll do as a CB in the pros.

Milliner looks like the real deal, but very doubtful that he will drop out of the top 20. Right now he and Jonathan Banks look like the top 2 CBs in the 2013 draft. I'd be happy with either if we were to take a CB.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:47 AM   #33
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Rhodes seems kind of stiff to me, not so sure how he'll do as a CB in the pros.

Milliner looks like the real deal, but very doubtful that he will drop out of the top 20. Right now he and Jonathan Banks look like the top 2 CBs in the 2013 draft. I'd be happy with either if we were to take a CB.

Doesn't seem like a great CB class at the top - Milliner, Banks then who pretty much describes it.
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Doesn't seem like a great CB class at the top - Milliner, Banks then who pretty much describes it.
Aaron Hester and Sheldon Price are two of the most underrated corners I have ever seen (I will continue to refer you to them vs. A.J. Jenkins in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl), but, to me, Banks>Milliner.
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Bradley McDougald, S, Kansas
plays both FS and SS, played WR his first two years, solid frame at 6-1 209. Weiss said he was as good as anybody on the team, seams like a Belichick player offense/defense/special teams. I wouldn't mind spending a late round pick on him.
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Aaron Hester and Sheldon Price are two of the most underrated corners I have ever seen (I will continue to refer you to them vs. A.J. Jenkins in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl), but, to me, Banks>Milliner.
What's your scouting report on cornerback Jordan Poyer from Oregon State?
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To me, Banks>Milliner.
I agree, but Milliner is still pretty darn good . He's a top 20 player, and I think he 's better than Dre Kirkpatrick was.

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Alabama football — Shutdown corner: Crimson Tide's Dee Milliner taking play to another level | The Montgomery Advertiser | montgomeryadvertiser.com
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Here's an interesting sounding FCS safety prospect:

al.com: Birmingham : Alabama State safety Kejuan Riley looking for interceptions in Magic City Classic

I don't know anything about him, but his size and apparent ball skills makes it seem like it's worth taking a look at him.
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watching some Tryrann Mathieu tape from last year, if he can put it together this kid can be electric at the next level. If we walk out of the draft next year TJ McDonald and Mathieu I think our secondary issues would be a thing of the past. Wilson and McDonald to shore up the back end, with McCourty and Dennard on the outside and Mathieu as the slot corner would make a world of difference. McDonald in the 1st round, Mathieu in the 7th.
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watching some Tryrann Mathieu tape from last year, if he can put it together this kid can be electric at the next level. If we walk out of the draft next year TJ McDonald and Mathieu I think our secondary issues would be a thing of the past. Wilson and McDonald to shore up the back end, with McCourty and Dennard on the outside and Mathieu as the slot corner would make a world of difference. McDonald in the 1st round, Mathieu in the 7th.
I'm with you on Mathieu (kinda) but I don't know what you see in McDonald. I can't find much I like about him and I watch USC all the time.

He just not good enough. He doesn't recognize plays quick enough, doesn't play the ball well, and he isn't physical.

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