Avenger

Daimion Stafford, S, Nebraska, one of the most underrated defenders in the country. Hard hitter, forces fumbles. Has a bit of Rodney Harrison in him.

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Off The Grid

Roger Goodell is my nomination for DB of the Millenium.

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Love HURTS!!

fightingirish595

JORDAN is 6'6. 240. he can easily put on 20-25 pounds and still maintain speed. what they should do is draft him, make him add weight. get him to 260. in our 4-3 he could line up opposite of jones. hes so versatile and athletic he can stand up in a 2 point stance. and i would honestly run a 2-4-5 where jones and jordan are on the outside an then you kick mayo and hightower inside. and spikes can get a breather cuz he sucks in pass coverage. imagine all the disguising that could be done with the versatility of our players.

woolster22

Well I just got hard...

ctpatsfan77

As a not-so-minor point, McCourty's under contract through 2014.

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manxman2601

I'd say two things to that:

1. I think it's a moot discussion anyway because I'd be amazed if Jordan doesn't go top 10. If Melvin Ingram can go at 15 based largely upon his athleticism, Jordan who is more athletic and doesn't suffer from the main negative against Ingram which was his lack of length (quite the opposite), then Jordan should go a lot higher.

2. I question how much BB values versatility on defense. He's very rigid in his approach to the front 7 - size, gap integrity, ability to stop the run and as good and exciting a player as Jordan is, those are probably the weakest elements to his game. Admittedly, the other attribute BB values is length which Jordan has in spades.

One caveat to the the above. Jordan is fairly unique and that is something that may well be attractive to BB. Problem is, that will be attractive to plenty of other GM's too, particularly those running 3-4's for which Jordan is ideally suited as an OLB.

It's funny, for the last two or three years, the draft classes have been pretty poor for two gap 3-4 teams which I think precipitated the Patriot's switch to our hybrid 4-3. And then this draft class comes along and it's chock full of 3-4 talent. A 3-4 GM fortunate enough to have seven picks in the first three rounds could build a quality whole new front 7 from this draft alone.*

Imagine:

DE: John Jenkins
DT: Jesse Williams
DE: Jonathan Hankins
OLB: Dion Jordan
ILB: Shayne Skov
ILB: Alec Ogletree
OLB: Chase Thomas

And that's ignoring the likes of Jarvis Jones, Mingo, Lotulelei, Montgomery and Teo.

* Obviously this scenario is unrealistic, I'm just trying to illustrate why 3-4 teams might look upon this draft class as a way to make hay while the sun shines and why ideal 3-4 talent will be snapped up.

mayoclinic

Melvin Ingram went #18 overall, FWIW. As for Jordan going top 10, it's possible, and I'd guess he's worthy, but there's a lot of potential competition - Star Lotulelei, Johnathan Hankins, Barkevious Mingo, Jarvis Jones, Sam Montgomery, Bjoern Werner. That's 6 defensive players alone. It's going to be tough for anyone to crack the top 10.

Jordan's most obvious "fit" is as a 3-4 hybrid LB, which would put him in direct competiton with Mingo, Jones and possibly Montgomery. I think that Jordan's "uniqueness" may make him a little hard to categorize, which could keep his draft stock down just a bit. But not much.

Great list.

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fightingirish595

right now, jordan is going in the 2nd half of the first round at the earliest. i expect that he could shoot up to the top 10, but right now i think he goes in the 20s. as for his stock dropping because pf position questions, i think that is wrong. he is very versatile. he can drop back in coverage effectively, and is also effective in the 3 point stance. he could play both DE and OLB in the NFL. right now he projects better as an OLB because he is about 240. but hes also 6'6 so he can easily add weight and get to 260 or 265 and still hold the speed and versatility

ZoisKing

This board is on a tear over Jordan. No more obvious then when a thread is labeled "What DB do you like?", and we're talking about ends...

I'm a fan of Vaccarro and Shawn Williams, for the sake of sticking to the OP's topic.

Sciz

I'm also a Vaccaro fan. I'm a huge Tavon Austin fan, and Vaccaro did a pretty good job in the slot on Austin. And this is a safety.

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