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Old 04-19-2012, 12:46 AM   #1
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Default What would you think if we traded out of the 1st Rd. entirely?

With 2 late 1's and a pair of 2's but nothing past the 4th in what I beleive is a weak draft class, why not stock up? We got hosed with Ocho and Albert but we can recoup some late RDers this year and next, plus add a high pick next year.

I just don't see any immediate impact guys falling in our lap at 27 & 31 in this class. Bills done so well at adding those year-or-two guys later it seems like why change your MO?

New Execs are always looking to make a splash, but he's proven slow and steady wins the race. It seems like for him he just throws out the worm and somethings bound to bite, even if you wind up dinner. BB's not a catch and release guy.

I think our scouting crew can find "that guy" late in the draft, I can name numerous examples. I think it will be a boring (or controverstial) draft until all the dust settles.

Prepare yourself for 3 2nd RDers is my prediction, wherever they may fall (and BTW, there'll be a couple of PS-UDFA's that make themselves known, count on it).
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:13 AM   #2
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Question: What would you think if we traded out of the 1st Rd. entirely?

Answer: I would throw up in my mouth. And yours too.

Makes no sense to trade BOTH picks out. Bradys career is nearing the end and the team is built to WIN NOW. I could see maybe trading out with one of the first rounders if the trade offer was good enough (say a first next year plus a 2nd or high 3rd this year). But trading both.....stupid.

Remember, first round salaries are now relatively bargins with the new rookie wage scale. Also 1st rounders can have a max of 5 year contract while later rounds a max of a 4 year contract.
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Trading out of the first round completely... hear me out

Trading Out of the First, good read
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:53 AM   #4
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I don't like the idea in general but it depends upon how the first round actually falls, how far they drop, and what they get in return. For a team that went to the Super Bowl they have quite a few needs and the current mocks and rankings are so volatile that it could be that players they have first round grades on fall into the 2nd, and they could actually address more needs with the same quality of players if things fell right. That said i would rather they go right after a couple of imp[act players in the first rather than sit back and see who falls. I actually like the way the draft has been setting up and see some players that could well be available who were thought to be out of reach a month ago (e.g...Dre Kirkpatrick, who had a top 10 grade early and has slipped, which is how they got Wilfork years ago).

The bottom line is going to be how the draft falls come draft day, because they have an opportunity to really upgrade the team with 4 picks in the first 2 rounds. How they utilize those depends upon who actually rises and falls during the draft and there are a number of scenarios where they can address multiple needs with really good prospects. They could very easily address LB, DB, DL, and either RB or WR in the first 2 rounds, and if they add a pick they could do all or add an OL instead of a skill position.

As for the draft overall i think the top 15 is not as strong as oit has been in past drafts but the talent from 20-50/60 is really solid and consistent. I love players like Lavonte David, Donta Hightower, Ruben Randle, Dre Kirkpatrick, and Derek Wolfe and most should be around in the range they are picking in, so i'm looking forward to a great draft for the Patriots.
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I'd think typical Belichick.

I pondered on the idea a while back and since then have heard a lot of other people say it too. I would support it in the event that the premium pass rushers are gone. I would hate for the Pats to waste a 1st round pick on some of the DL prospects out there who could fall into our laps in the second round.

There's very little value on the DL or at OLB in the first round. The convert prospects all have flaws in my eyes and could struggle to be day one starters and on the DL there are no more than five guys I see as immediate impact, day one starters with their hands in the dirt...which is what you expect of a first round pick.

Other needs include OT/OG, DB, WR, RB....Running Back not so much but at all these other positions you could be finding immediate contributors in round three! That's how great the depth is.

Don't be surprised if Belichick does it and, in a certain situation such as all the premium players being off the board by #27, I would whole heartedly support it. We have to remember that not only are we one of the teams with the fewest picks in this year's draft (6), we are also in a similar boat next year with just five! We need to get some picks.

Don't be surprised if the Pats take a RB in round two either...especially if Doug Martin falls.
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Answer: I would throw up in my mouth. And yours too.
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I knew there had to be another thread on this subject, I just didn't look far back enough. Mods maybe you can combine them?
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Don't be surprised if Belichick does it and, in a certain situation such as all the premium players being off the board by #27, I would whole heartedly support it. We have to remember that not only are we one of the teams with the fewest picks in this year's draft (6), we are also in a similar boat next year with just five! We need to get some picks.
That said, the only teams with better positioning in the first two rounds than the Pats' 1-1-2-2 are CLE, CIN, and STL, and none of them have four picks in the first two rounds.
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Our top pick only requires a trade down of 6 spots to be out of the first spot, it's possible and not a particularly big deal.
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I have been thinking this for awhile.. it makes to much sense if they don't find value which it looks like the value in the draft is in the early to mid 2nd round..

I would not be mad at all.. We have a stacked team.. in BB we TRUST!
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