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Old 04-18-2012, 12:40 PM   #1
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Two-rounder, no trades.

27. Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
31. Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia
48. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
62. LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:52 PM   #2
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As much as I advocate trading or signing a big time RB, drafting one really makes no sense unless there is legitimate reason to believe Vereen and / or Ridley won't cut it. I loooove James as a prospect and think he is a better one than what we have, but having a third second day RB in two years is...weird.

Rest of the draft, love it. Ideal even. But James should be an interior line guy instead.
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Two-rounder, no trades.

27. Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
31. Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia
48. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
62. LaMichael James, RB, Oregon

Nick Perry is my binky, he's big enough to play for us at DE or OLB (in time and when we actully use a standard 3-4) and Pittsburgh seems to have an interest, which is something of a seal of approval on blitzers.

I'm not a fan of unproven WRs in the first round. I would take Streeter in the third round, a similar player.

We need a Safety, if McCourty is going to Safety then okay, otherwise, we don't need another CB.

No, to another high pick at RB. We need another tackling machine at LB, especially with Spikes coming off knee surgery.

Meh!
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As much as I advocate trading or signing a big time RB, drafting one really makes no sense unless there is legitimate reason to believe Vereen and / or Ridley won't cut it. I loooove James as a prospect and think he is a better one than what we have, but having a third second day RB in two years is...weird.

Rest of the draft, love it. Ideal even. But James should be an interior line guy instead.
If you love him, draft him. End of story. The Chargers had Ladanian Tomlinson then drafted Michael Turner. Would they be better off right now if they had held onto Turner? Yes. The point is you cannot have too much healthy talent. Guys can get hurt. I have no idea about James as I haven't been following the draft this year. All I know is that a team that went 13-3 and made the Superbowl has the luxury to load up on talent. And in the end it's not really a luxury. If Ridley goes down, who do you turn to?
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I respect all the draftniks who know about all these guys, and love the "game" of the draft.. personally cannot remember most of them and whether or not they might fit into our system...

I just follow along, and learn a bit..
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Don't really care for the RB or WR pick (in favor of the latter, just not in the first round).
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Two-rounder, no trades.

27. Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
31. Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia
48. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
62. LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
No room for another WR, and a rookie RB.



If anything, we'll add a veteran RB. And BB's track record with WR's is pretty bad.
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I want no part of an option WR. The next complex route Hill runs will be his first. I think he is one of the most overrated players in the draft.
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Two-rounder, no trades.

27. Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
31. Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia
48. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
62. LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
If Belichick didn't want Matthews at #26, he certainly won't want Perry at #27. He has the same assets as Matthews when moving forward (speed, lean, motor) but is even worse than Matthews when moving laterally or in reverse. Unless Belichick had an epiphany at his 60th birthday party, he just doesn't want guys that dive into the backfield with their hair on fire. Surprised that people continue to expect him to change year after year.

Hill is a fine prospect and is a reasonable value at #31, but that pick doesn't make much sense for the Pats after the Lloyd signing. Assuming Welker returns in 2012, it is simple math. Add up the anticipated catches for:
- Lloyd (70)
- Welker (90)
- Gronk (80)
- Hernandez (70)
Those are hopelessly low estimates for those guys if healthy and it still results in 310 catches. Even if Brady gets to 400 completions again (and that certainly doesn't seem optimal), that only leaves 90 catches for everyone else. Even with BOB underutilizing the RBs (something McDaniels won't do), they accounted for 37 last year. Fells should be good for 20 catches. Even gaming the projections like I did, that only leaves about 30-35 catches (2 a game) in POTENTIAL for WRs 3-6. So unless you are drafting Hill to sit and watch for a year or you want to de-emphasize one of the above players from the offense, that pick doesn't seem to fit.

Dennard OTOH seems like a classic Belichick pick (which may or may not be a compliment). Excels in zone, willing against the run, smart and instinctual. Not a turn-n-run guy though. Seems to fit with McCourty and Dowling.

Don't understand the James pick unless Vereen or Woodhead goes away. I could more understand a bigger guy more in line with Ridley than another smaller/quicker RB that excels in space.

Overall would have to rate this a meh since the Pats get good players (never a bad thing) but the fits leave something to be desired.
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i'm going with FAIL.
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