Patsman

Is why there? - did the Pats think someone else really like the guy in the next 6 picks, even next full round? Are there other teams out there that were ready to hop on him if the Pats let him slide? Could we have not waited and picked up someone that might have been a little higher on the value charts. My thoughts are that their next three might be a tad unusual as well because when I look at Wheatleys value pre-draft, I'm seeing most evaluators tab him as a 4th rounder at best, nevermind a second rounder. I just don't understand that pick at all.

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Pedrorocks458

First of all, there is already a thread about him.

Second of all, there's no way you know that he wouldn't have gone. I love this weekend but this is my pet peeve. Usually it comes out that he was being targeted. Worry about the player not the pick they used.

CopenhagenPatsfan

I am sure if you take the time to read the other 10 threads on the subject you will find your answer

JoePats

I'd say clearly the answer to your question is yes. And I'd also say they were awfully confident he would not be there just 6 picks later. It's not like they were going to have to sweat it out over the course of a whole round, which is kind of like roulette. They easily could have waited 6 picks but they thought he would be gone.

PATRIOT64

I still question the pick of Ben Watson who at the time may have been the biggest head scratcher in BB's era here,Watson more assuredly would have been around the next time NE came up to bat.

Watson is now a borderline above average TE but better than I thought anyways

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patchick

Are you basing your "he'd be there later" convictions on draft site rankings? Try this: go back and rank the CBs in order of measurables, skills and production and you'll find that Wheatley suddenly looks like a stud at 62. Seriously, he is much, much better athlete than most of the players ranked above him and has terrific football character and intelligence. If other teams were comfortable with his wrist, he could easily have gone soon.

dhamz

The why there question can't be answered by us. We don't have the info teams have. Maybe they think he was going to go before it got back to them. Maybe they just thought a corner run was coming and he was their top guy and wanted to get him.

I really thought the whole "he'd have definitely been there later" thing was put to rest with the Mankins pick. There was a whole lot of that being thrown around and then the 49ers GM comes out and says they were going to take Mankins with their pick - 1 pick after the pats.

mgteich

The patriots did not want to risk the Giants taking him at the very next pick.

bradmahn

The corner run was absolutely what happened, so excellent observation.

Is it not widely regarded that it is folly to attempt to judge a draft after one year? Don't we say it's ridiculous to try to judge a draft before rookies have even had an opportunity to report to their teams? Why, then, would you try to make any sort of judgments about where a player "would have been" before the next ten picks have even been selected? This is especially true when a player is "borderline."

******* Relax! Goddamnit!

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jeffbiologist

Yes there was a corner run.....but with 4 picks so close(62-94)they likely didnt like ANY of the next 3-4 CBs. Further, NOW(end of the 3rd rd)it also looks like they dont like ANY of our guys....trading away for a SD 2nd?? 69 in a good draft vs say 58 a year later in a so-so draft?? Ya, we get a 5th, but again not good value I dont think....