Official Leaguewide Rookie Watch Thread

[ctpatsfan77]

Originally Posted by Snake Eyes

I actually would. Neither one can play at the moment but if you can fix each of their respective issues Watkins works much better in our O-line, Watkins was a Guard and that's what he was expected to play, with Cannon being a former Tackle he's 1) sitting on the bench or 2) playing out of position.

I wonder if Cannon wasn't expected to be a guard but rather depth at tackle and/or trade bait. So, with our biggest weakness on the O-line being the interior I go for Watkins.

So is Mankins, and for that matter, so are most guards in the NFL.

[Off The Grid]

1 ~ My FROTHING regard for JJ "Dynomite" Watt was well documented. What a FORCE.

2 ~ I wasn't too keen on Danny Watkins, as my boy Snake will certainly recall.

3 ~ I much preferred Benjamin Ijalana, who went at #49 while Watkins cost #23. Neither has done much, yet.

4 ~ My favorite O Guard Value, though, was Jason Pinkston, who I wanted us to draft in the 5th Round, along with Ijalana in the 2nd, and who is already starting for CleveLand!! WOOT!!

There are plenty of calls that haven't gained traction, yet, though, BELIEVE me!!

[Snake Eyes]

Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

So is Mankins, and for that matter, so are most guards in the NFL.

As Mankins has been playing Guard for several years he is not playing out of position, he's doing what he has been for quite some time.

That said, Watkins has been a Guard and I'd groom him to take over at RG, that's a much smaller transition than taking Cannon, who many chacterize as a "road grader", and having him switch from Tackle to Guard.

Long story short, I think Watkins would have not only more immediate impact but a higher ceiling at Guard. That said, I've certainly been wrong before and will be so again.

[Off The Grid]

Originally Posted by Snake Eyes

I actually would. Neither one can play at the moment but if you can fix each of their respective issues Watkins works much better in our O-line, Watkins was a Guard and that's what he was expected to play, with Cannon being a former Tackle he's 1) sitting on the bench or 2) playing out of position.

I wonder if Cannon wasn't expected to be a guard but rather depth at tackle and/or trade bait. So, with our biggest weakness on the O-line being the interior I go for Watkins.

Watkins was a Tackle, Bro, just like Cannon.

I still love the kid, though, and while I had NO interest in'm as an Early Rounder, I'm FULLY On Board with your notion of him as a reclamation project, down the road, if he flops in Philly.

[Off The Grid]

Thank God for actual FootBall talk...

As for Cannon, I must report that I've cooled on him, considerably.

Upon further review ~ I'm still relatively new at this ~ I've decided that Slow Snap Count Awareness is such a dramatic Red Flag that it's actually a Deal Breaker for me...and this is something that plagues Cannon, I believe.

It speaks to Processing Speed, and I want every one of my 53 to grade HIGH on that aspect of the game, regardless of their physical prowess.

For that reason, I'll be wishing Marcus "Howitzer" Cannon the best, and hoping that he makes me look like a moron...But I'll be looking for TWO Interior Linemen in 2012's Draft...EARLY.

[Snake Eyes]

Originally Posted by Off The Grid

Watkins was a Tackle, Bro, just like Cannon.

I still love the kid, though, and while I had NO interest in'm as an Early Rounder, I'm FULLY On Board with your notion of him as a reclamation project, down the road, if he flops in Philly.

Upon further review ~ I'm still relatively new at this ~ I've decided that Slow Snap Count Awareness is such a dramatic Red Flag that it's actually a Deal Breaker for me...and this is something that plagues Cannon, I believe.

It speaks to Processing Speed, and I want every one of my 53 to grade HIGH on that aspect of the game, regardless of their physical prowess.

For that reason, I'll be wishing Marcus "Howitzer" Cannon the best, and hoping that he makes me look like a moron...But I'll be looking for TWO Interior Linemen in 2012's Draft...EARLY.

I stand corrected, thanks.

It is an intriguing idea that he and Mallett can potentially be shipped out of town for MASSIVE loot, teams will always be desperate for franchise QBs and Tackles, if BB keeps this up he won't have to worry about cycling the 1st round pick for a 2nd and next year's first but just get diamonds with rough edges, polishing them up, and selling them to the desperate groom

[patchick]

Originally Posted by Off The Grid

Thank God for actual FootBall talk...

As for Cannon, I must report that I've cooled on him, considerably.

Upon further review ~ I'm still relatively new at this ~ I've decided that Slow Snap Count Awareness is such a dramatic Red Flag that it's actually a Deal Breaker for me...and this is something that plagues Cannon, I believe.

I have to admit, I never saw Cannon as a fit for the Patriots pre-draft. The Pats' OL has a distinctive (and unusual) athletic profile that Cannon just doesn't fit. But I'll try to stay optimistic!

At other positions, Jabaal Sheard was the OLB/DE I really, really wanted. I can't complain that they chose my favorite DB instead, but I couldn't help but feel a little * watching Sheard make a strip sack last week!

* I tried to type "w i s t f u l" there, but the obscenity filter rejected the word on the bases of letters 3-6!

[Ochmed Jones]

Originally Posted by patchick

I have to admit, I never saw Cannon as a fit for the Patriots pre-draft. The Pats' OL has a distinctive (and unusual) athletic profile that Cannon just doesn't fit. But I'll try to stay optimistic!

At other positions, Jabaal Sheard was the OLB/DE I really, really wanted. I can't complain that they chose my favorite DB instead, but I couldn't help but feel a little * watching Sheard make a strip sack last week!

* I tried to type "w i s t f u l" there, but the obscenity filter rejected the word on the bases of letters 3-6!

I had us taking Sheard at #33 as well, if only becuase he was the most sudden of all the OLB/DE types in that draft.

With our first pick, I had us taking Costanzo and instead we took Solder. I mocked the right position, but projected the wrong guy. Saw Costanzo in the preaseason and I thougt he played well. The sad thing is with Peyton out, the Colts QB's are holding onto the ball forever, which will lead to Costanzo being charged for sacks that are not his fault.

[Off The Grid]

Originally Posted by Snake Eyes

I stand corrected, thanks.

It is an intriguing idea that he and Mallett can potentially be shipped out of town for MASSIVE loot, teams will always be desperate for franchise QBs and Tackles, if BB keeps this up he won't have to worry about cycling the 1st round pick for a 2nd and next year's first but just get diamonds with rough edges, polishing them up, and selling them to the desperate groom

Hah!! I like your Vision, Bro!!

[Snake Eyes]

Originally Posted by Off The Grid

Thank God for actual FootBall talk...

As for Cannon, I must report that I've cooled on him, considerably.

Upon further review ~ I'm still relatively new at this ~ I've decided that Slow Snap Count Awareness is such a dramatic Red Flag that it's actually a Deal Breaker for me...and this is something that plagues Cannon, I believe.

It speaks to Processing Speed, and I want every one of my 53 to grade HIGH on that aspect of the game, regardless of their physical prowess.

For that reason, I'll be wishing Marcus "Howitzer" Cannon the best, and hoping that he makes me look like a moron...But I'll be looking for TWO Interior Linemen in 2012's Draft...EARLY.

Do you have any "Brewster/DeCastro 2012" yardsigns yet?