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Old 03-27-2008, 04:39 PM   #1
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I think he would attract the most attention from teams trying to trade up to 7. Ideally Pats could trade back into the Teens, and have their pick of defensive players.

If Dorsey or Mcfadden fall to 7 i also think they could garner similar attention.
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Old 03-27-2008, 04:51 PM   #2
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Even if hes gone someone is probably willing to try to move up in front of Balt for Brohm. Balt has to be thinking QB.
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Wouldn't the best case scenario be that the person who's actually on top of the Patriots' draft board falls to them? My guess is that's Chris Long, but obviously I can't say for sure.

I think that if there's a great trade to be made, you make it, but otherwise I don't see the harm in actually using the pick (especially if Gholston doesn't go to the Jets).
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Wouldn't the best case scenario be that the person who's actually on top of the Patriots' draft board falls to them? My guess is that's Chris Long, but obviously I can't say for sure.

I think that if there's a great trade to be made, you make it, but otherwise I don't see the harm in actually using the pick (especially if Gholston doesn't go to the Jets).
You're right, but when you are painfully waiting for the draft good old paralasis through analysis sets in.
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Wouldn't the best case scenario be that the person who's actually on top of the Patriots' draft board falls to them? My guess is that's Chris Long, but obviously I can't say for sure.

I think that if there's a great trade to be made, you make it, but otherwise I don't see the harm in actually using the pick (especially if Gholston doesn't go to the Jets).
Not necessarily. Best case scenario, Pats realistic top guy is someone with a mid-first grade. If Ryan is on the board, they could move him to some team like Carolina who can leapfrog Baltimore -- who everyone has a good chance of taking Ryan.

Pats then get the player they want in mid-first as well as pick up a 2008 second or something else close to that.

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Wouldn't the Jets be more likely to trade back from number 6? Especially since they can convince another team that there's at least a snowball's chance that they would consider taking Ryan?

Unless the Jets fall in love with someone, Gholston or whoever, IMO they would be just as likely to trade down so someone else could take Ryan. And they have first crack.
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Wouldn't the Jets be more likely to trade back from number 6? Especially since they can convince another team that there's at least a snowball's chance that they would consider taking Ryan?

Unless the Jets fall in love with someone, Gholston or whoever, IMO they would be just as likely to trade down so someone else could take Ryan. And they have first crack.
Except you can't pull that #@#% if the other team believes you might take the player; if the JEST want Ryan, why would they trade out if he's still available?

If a team thought the JEST might take Ryan, they'd try to trade up to #5.
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I think he would attract the most attention from teams trying to trade up to 7. Ideally Pats could trade back into the Teens, and have their pick of defensive players.

If Dorsey or Mcfadden fall to 7 i also think they could garner similar attention.
i think best case is macfadden...
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Except you can't pull that #@#% if the other team believes you might take the player; if the JEST want Ryan, why would they trade out if he's still available?

If a team thought the JEST might take Ryan, they'd try to trade up to #5.
What would likely happen is that Baltimore (if they really like Ryan) would swap picks with the Jets. The Jets aren't going to draft Ryan, but Baltimore knows that New England is probably shopping the pick and there are teams that could leapfrog ahead of Baltimore at 8 and snatch Ryan from underneath them.

In fact, if Atlanta passes on Ryan at 3, I think this is a very likely scenario.

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i think best case is macfadden...
I'd actually rather see the Pats draft Ryan over McFadden if those are their options, and trading down is impossible. Ryan will definitely have trade value this year and next year at this time. You can't say the same about McFadden.

Of course, there's the matter of a big cap hit for a backup QB.....

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Even if hes gone someone is probably willing to try to move up in front of Balt for Brohm. Balt has to be thinking QB.
Highly unlikely. Baltimore is thinking QB, but they're not going to draft Brohm a round too early to get one. They could try to trade into the latter part of the round, but at least one, probably two, and possibly all three of Brohm, Henne, and Flacco will be there when they draft in the second round (#38), and there's not a lot separating them. The Ravens might well have Flacco rated as their #2 QB.
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Default Re: Best Case Scenario: Ryan falls to 7

Everybody thinks that all these teams are going to be HOT after Matt Ryan, but I don't really see it. It's quite possible that even the Ravens would pass on him at#8. They could land possibly Brohm in the 2nd round (unlikely, but possible). Also they'll probably be able to select from Flacco or Henne. I personally would rather see Ryan taken in the Top 5. It would give the Patriots a chance to get a better player, rather then hoping Ryan falls and trying to make a trade. I'd rather see a Gholston or a Dorsey fall then see Ryan fall to us.
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