New 3-round mock from NFLDraftwatch - New England Patriots Forums

Seneschal2 · 03-09-2008, 03:50 PM

Interesting explanations for all three rounds and an A for effort:

http://nfldraftwatch.net/?page_id=184

Pats picks:

7. New England Patriots - Gholston, Vernon, DE Ohio State
63. New England Patriots - Wheeler, Philip, ILB Georgia Tech
68. New England Patriots - Lee, Patrick, CB Auburn
95. New England Patriots - Simpson, Jerome, WR Coastal Carolina

Also, I do like the idea of Jake Long going #1.

***BelichickFan*** · 03-09-2008, 04:10 PM

Not sure about Simpson but I like the other three picks a lot.

The DT (Dorsey, Ellis) are interesting - I hope they go before our pick as it pushes need position players down to us but if the DT happen to slip down, that is a position that teams will trade up for.

***DaBruinz*** · 03-09-2008, 04:26 PM

I really wish these places doing Mocks would look at the WHOLE of a team before saying things like " Simpson is like Stallworth so the Pats may be interested."

No, the Pats won't be interested because the Pats CHOSE to let Stallworth go. They also have a player named Chad Jackson who spent most of last year recovering from a Torn ACL he got during his rookie season.

Now, if Jackson were to FLOP this year, then I would think that the Pats would be looking NEXT year. But not before then.

patsfaninpa · 03-09-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

Not sure about Simpson but I like the other three picks a lot.

The DT (Dorsey, Ellis) are interesting - I hope they go before our pick as it pushes need position players down to us but if the DT happen to slip down, that is a position that teams will trade up for.

Agree. Love the 1st three picks. He doesn't have Chevis Jackson in there. CB - LSU. Let's sub him for the wr and call it a day.

Boston Boxer · 03-09-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

I really wish these places doing Mocks would look at the WHOLE of a team before saying things like " Simpson is like Stallworth so the Pats may be interested."

No, the Pats won't be interested because the Pats CHOSE to let Stallworth go. They also have a player named Chad Jackson who spent most of last year recovering from a Torn ACL he got during his rookie season.

Now, if Jackson were to FLOP this year, then I would think that the Pats would be looking NEXT year. But not before then.

i think the mock says he is vey Moss like not Stallworth.

***DaBruinz*** · 03-09-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Boxer

i think the mock says he is vey Moss like not Stallworth.

That's even worse then. The Pats don't need two speed burners on the outside. They need DIFFERENT weapons.

mcsully · 03-09-2008, 06:44 PM

If Matt Ryan is sitting there, I think its a perfect time for the pats to make some phone calls (ie chicago) and move back a few spots and pick up a couple of additional picks..
Or Just call Baltimore and say move up 1 spot and give us your #2.. Kinda like what Detriot did to Cleveland a few years back when the browns moved up 1 spot to get Kellen Winslow and gave up a 2nd..

Ochmed Jones · 03-10-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

That's even worse then. The Pats don't need two speed burners on the outside. They need DIFFERENT weapons.

Very rarely do I have to agree with somebody who knows next to nothing about the game, has never played the game, and has no clue what goes on in practices or the locker room, but I am in 100% agreement with you on this point.

Moss is great at running the go and fly patterns, but he is very shy about going over the middle and when he does go over the middle he usually goes down on first contact.

Welker is lightening quick and handles all the short routes over the middle and with some help from Faulk covers the flats as well.

The gaping hole in the Pats attack is the mid to deep seam route. Stallworth did Ok early in the season running it, but then stopped and Gaffney isn't fast enough to run it.
Watson would be ideal, but hasn't gotten caught the ball consistently enough. And I don't hold out much hope for any other TE either on staff, including Thomas or in the draft being able to do it.

However WR Steve Johnson of Kentucky was very productive in college in this area of the field. And he was productive with Woodson throwing some ducks to him, one that almost got him decapitated in the LSU game.

Johnson has decent not great speed, good hands and a willingness to venture into that part of the field. On first or second down, especially if play action is used, could really hurt a defense in the mid to deep seam or at worst open things up either under neath or deep for somebody else.

BradyManny · 03-10-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ochmed Jones

Welker is lightening quick and handles all the short routes over the middle and with some help from Faulk covers the flats as well.

The gaping hole in the Pats attack is the mid to deep seam route. Stallworth did Ok early in the season running it, but then stopped and Gaffney isn't fast enough to run it.

What about Chad Jackson?

***ctpatsfan77*** · 03-10-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ochmed Jones

Watson would be ideal, but hasn't gotten caught the ball consistently enough. And I don't hold out much hope for any other TE either on staff, including Thomas or in the draft being able to do it.

Just out of curiosity--how far downfield are you talking about? And, what makes you think Thomas can't do it? [I'm not taking a stand one way or the other.]