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Old 04-29-2011, 09:46 AM   #11
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Who do you think wants to pay to move up to #33? I don't see BB wanting to move out of the 30's (so might require them to trade up) if picks are lower end of 2nd round.
Honestly, I wouldn't think anyone would. Ever. I can't figure why the Saints gave us the trade they did. And yet people keep giving us these trades. I'm going to go with: it is BB's Jedi mind tricks.
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Honestly, I wouldn't think anyone would. Ever. I can't figure why the Saints gave us the trade they did. And yet people keep giving us these trades. I'm going to go with: it is BB's Jedi mind tricks.
I have to ask myself if #56 this year and a first next year is worth having Wilkerson for all of 2011 and 2012. I guess we need to see who we take at #56 first.

Someone on sirius radio said BB has a trade lined up for #33 and it involves a 3rd and 7th this year and a first next year. No mention of which team was trading with us.
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I have to ask myself if #56 this year and a first next year is worth having Wilkerson for all of 2011 and 2012. I guess we need to see who we take at #56 first.

Someone on sirius radio said BB has a trade lined up for #33 and it involves a 3rd and 7th this year and a first next year. No mention of which team was trading with us.
It seems very UnBelichickian to have a draft gap from #17 to #56. So if true, he'll bank the first rounder in 2012 (really hope there's a draft) and then trade back up into the mid-2nd. I'd guess it's a team without a 2nd. How funny if it would be Carolina.

Unless a team is desperate enough for a QB to include their second round pick with the rest, that's a huge ransom.
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#33 is clearly for choosing between Brady successors Dalton and Kaepernick ; however, if you insist on considering other prospects: RB Williams, RB Daniels, WR Cobbs, DE Jenkins, OL Ijalana, CB Dowling, DL Austin.

#56 could be bundled to move up for one of the above, or: DL McClain, DL Paea, OLB Bailey, OLB Reed.

#60 probably moves down: CB Curtis Brown, OLB Sheard, DL Ellis, ILB McCarthy, ILB Matthews, DL McPhee.

#74 is probably trade bait: OL Boling, OL Wisniewski, RB Murray, RB Hunter, CB Jalil Brown.

#92 for whichever early fourth rounder looks good.
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I think we blew this draft. There was huge, huge depth of first round talent at DE and OLB and we let them pass. We didn't trade up to get Quinn or Kerrigan, we didn't get a DE when we traded down and we lost the possibility of Wilkerson, Heyward or another OT like Sherrod.

And as for Solder, he's a working project. First of all, he plays too high. Second, he has low body mass in his lower body. Third, the few games I've seen him played, he got burned at least once, always. So, he's not exactly an inmediate solution to an inmediate problem.

So, if we don't sign Mankins to a long-term contract, say goodbye to next season. And Brady can say goodbye to his high completion percentage.
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Yep, I'm not a fan of his running style plus I've focused on an RB with a better balance of rushing/receiving/pass protection strengths. Ivan Fears seemed to confirm this yesterday when he said they like Ryan Williams and DeMarco Murray and aren't hot for Leshoure.
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I think we blew this draft. There was huge, huge depth of first round talent at DE and OLB and we let them pass. We didn't trade up to get Quinn or Kerrigan, we didn't get a DE when we traded down and we lost the possibility of Wilkerson, Heyward or another OT like Sherrod.

And as for Solder, he's a working project. First of all, he plays too high. Second, he has low body mass in his lower body. Third, the few games I've seen him played, he got burned at least once, always. So, he's not exactly an inmediate solution to an inmediate problem.

So, if we don't sign Mankins to a long-term contract, say goodbye to next season. And Brady can say goodbye to his high completion percentage.
Well that clears up my calendar; no need to waste my time watching the rest of the draft much less the 2011 season. Until 2012, have a good one everybody!
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I think we blew this draft. There was huge, huge depth of first round talent at DE and OLB and we let them pass. We didn't trade up to get Quinn or Kerrigan, we didn't get a DE when we traded down and we lost the possibility of Wilkerson, Heyward or another OT like Sherrod.

And as for Solder, he's a working project. First of all, he plays too high. Second, he has low body mass in his lower body. Third, the few games I've seen him played, he got burned at least once, always. So, he's not exactly an inmediate solution to an inmediate problem.

So, if we don't sign Mankins to a long-term contract, say goodbye to next season. And Brady can say goodbye to his high completion percentage.
Well, you must've picked the wrong games to watch Solder. He gave up 5 sacks and 20 pressures in 1400 total snaps.

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