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The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
First of all, this mock is completely unrealistic -- it has no trades. It's just something I do to get a handle on where the "hot spots" may be and where trades are likely to occur. These are bolded. Two observations -- DeQuan Bowers falls out of the top 10, and Mark Ingram doesn't go in the first round at all...other indicators that a trade could be a possibility. Even though it's unrealistic, it's something I do anyway, so I figured I'd share it and get any comments that I could use going forward. Onward....
1. CAR Blaine Gabbart
2. DEN Marcel Dareus
3. BUF Patrick Peterson
4. CIN Cam Newton
5. ARI Von Miller
6. CLE Nick Fairley
7. SF Prince Amukamara
8. TEN AJ Green 9. DAL Cam Jordan - I think that Dallas will probably move up. If not, I think they should trade back. Quinn and Bowers should excite somebody.
10. WAS Robert Quinn
11. HOU Aldon Smith
12. MIN Julio Jones 13. DET DaQuan Bowers - Bowers just wasn't a huge priority for teams up until now -- and he's not for Detroit, either, but line him up next to Suh and look out. This could be a likely trading spot for anybody looking to land Bowers.
14. STL Corey Liuget 15. MIA Phil Taylor - Early? Perhaps, but the 3-4 doesn't run without a nose. Miami would certainly prefer to trade back a couple of spots and take Taylor. SD at #18 seems like a possibility.
16. JAC Jimmy Smith
17. NE JJ Watt 18. SD Tyron Smith - San Diego wields some power in this draft, and is probably targeting some of the same picks as New England. Miami seems a good partner.
19. NYG Anthony Castonzo
20. TB Martez Wilson
21. KC Gabe Carimi
22. IND Derek Sherrod
23. PHI Brandon Harris 24. NO Justin Houston - Nobody here seems to be an especially great value for the Saints. This is a good spot for somebody to come get Ingram, Pouncey, or Wilkerson.
25. SEA Jake Locker
26. BAL Mike Pouncey
27. ATL Stephen Paea
28. NE Ryan Kerrigan
29. CHI Christian Ballard
30. NYJ Muhammad Wilkerson
31. PIT Ben Ijalana
32. GB Nate Solder 33. NE Danny Watkins - This pick will almost certainly be traded, but Watkins belongs in New England, and I don't think the Patriots will trade down too far.
__________________ When it's third and 10, you can have the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time. -- R.I.P. Max McGee
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Re: The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
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Originally Posted by dryheat44
First of all, this mock is completely unrealistic -- it has no trades. It's just something I do to get a handle on where the "hot spots" may be and where trades are likely to occur. These are bolded. Two observations -- DeQuan Bowers falls out of the top 10, and Mark Ingram doesn't go in the first round at all...other indicators that a trade could be a possibility. Even though it's unrealistic, it's something I do anyway, so I figured I'd share it and get any comments that I could use going forward. Onward....
1. CAR Blaine Gabbart
2. DEN Marcel Dareus
3. BUF Patrick Peterson
4. CIN Cam Newton
5. ARI Von Miller
6. CLE Nick Fairley
7. SF Prince Amukamara
8. TEN AJ Green 9. DAL Cam Jordan - I think that Dallas will probably move up. If not, I think they should trade back. Quinn and Bowers should excite somebody.
10. WAS Robert Quinn
11. HOU Aldon Smith
12. MIN Julio Jones 13. DET DaQuan Bowers - Bowers just wasn't a huge priority for teams up until now -- and he's not for Detroit, either, but line him up next to Suh and look out. This could be a likely trading spot for anybody looking to land Bowers.
14. STL Corey Liuget 15. MIA Phil Taylor - Early? Perhaps, but the 3-4 doesn't run without a nose. Miami would certainly prefer to trade back a couple of spots and take Taylor. SD at #18 seems like a possibility.
16. JAC Jimmy Smith
17. NE JJ Watt 18. SD Tyron Smith - San Diego wields some power in this draft, and is probably targeting some of the same picks as New England. Miami seems a good partner.
19. NYG Anthony Castonzo
20. TB Martez Wilson
21. KC Gabe Carimi
22. IND Derek Sherrod
23. PHI Brandon Harris 24. NO Justin Houston - Nobody here seems to be an especially great value for the Saints. This is a good spot for somebody to come get Ingram, Pouncey, or Wilkerson.
25. SEA Jake Locker
26. BAL Mike Pouncey
27. ATL Stephen Paea
28. NE Ryan Kerrigan
29. CHI Christian Ballard
30. NYJ Muhammad Wilkerson
31. PIT Ben Ijalana
32. GB Nate Solder 33. NE Danny Watkins - This pick will almost certainly be traded, but Watkins belongs in New England, and I don't think the Patriots will trade down too far.
This above would be my perfect scenario.
I lean a little toward Ingram somehow because I think BGE had a nice year and was serviceable, but I think Ingram is the bell cow like Dillon was.
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Re: The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
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Originally Posted by mgteich
sign me up
Yeah, I think most of us would sign off on that 1st round -- which means it's probably impossible. What definitely works in our favor is that Kerrigan doesn't figure on getting as much interest from 4-3 teams, which is pretty much all who drafts in that range.
__________________ When it's third and 10, you can have the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time. -- R.I.P. Max McGee
Last edited by dryheat44; 03-15-2011 at 12:11 PM..
Re: The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
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Originally Posted by dryheat44
What definitely works in our favor is that Kerrigan doesn't figure on getting as much interest from 4-3 teams, which is pretty much all who drafts in that range.
Really? I thought the word at the combine was that Kerrigan was almost exclusively a 4-3 DE prospect.
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Re: The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
Also, no trades allows us to get Watt. It would seem that someone would trade up to 14, 15 or 16 to grab Watt. If the draft went this way through 13, I would expect Belichick to trade up with St. Louis at 14 to get Watt.
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Originally Posted by dryheat44
Yeah, I think most of us would sign off on that 1st round -- which means it's probably impossible. What definitely works in our favor is that Kerrigan doesn't figure on getting as much interest from 4-3 teams, which is pretty much all who drafts in that range.
Re: The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
Drafting Kerrigan and Watt would be a bit redundant, no? I was under the impression that both played majority of the snaps at DE and may transition into 3-4 OLBs. This doesn't even account for having Cunningham.
In either case, I like both players and the bottom of the first round is weak. Ingram would be tempting at 33 though, but having him available in the second round will cause the trade lines to open up and the Pats could being to stockpile for 2012.
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Re: The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
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Originally Posted by TealSox
Drafting Kerrigan and Watt would be a bit redundant, no? I was under the impression that both played majority of the snaps at DE and may transition into 3-4 OLBs. This doesn't even account for having Cunningham.
In either case, I like both players and the bottom of the first round is weak. Ingram would be tempting at 33 though, but having him available in the second round will cause the trade lines to open up and the Pats could being to stockpile for 2012.
I highly doubt Watt will be moving to LB anytime soon. He weighs in the 295 range and with his height and frame I could see him playing at 305.
Kerrigan definately a convert. A lot of folks see him as a safe pick. I'm in the stiff minority on this one.
Re: The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
Watt is 25 pounds heavier than Kerrigan. I see Watt as being a DE, and Kerrigan as being an OLB.
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Originally Posted by TealSox
Drafting Kerrigan and Watt would be a bit redundant, no? I was under the impression that both played majority of the snaps at DE and may transition into 3-4 OLBs. This doesn't even account for having Cunningham.
In either case, I like both players and the bottom of the first round is weak. Ingram would be tempting at 33 though, but having him available in the second round will cause the trade lines to open up and the Pats could being to stockpile for 2012.
Re: The Uncle Heatster 1st + 1 mock draft 1.0, March 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TealSox
Drafting Kerrigan and Watt would be a bit redundant, no? I was under the impression that both played majority of the snaps at DE and may transition into 3-4 OLBs. This doesn't even account for having Cunningham.
In either case, I like both players and the bottom of the first round is weak. Ingram would be tempting at 33 though, but having him available in the second round will cause the trade lines to open up and the Pats could being to stockpile for 2012.
No, no....Watt is a 3-4 DE. Kerrigan is a 3-4 OLB. Watt might be the heaviest LB in the history of the league if he were to be slotted back there.
I agree that Ingram is tempting at #33, but there are other issues that need to be attended to. I would expect him to go late in the first anyway after a trade.
__________________ When it's third and 10, you can have the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time. -- R.I.P. Max McGee