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***reflexblue*** · 02-25-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by meggett

your right...you watch TV so much better than me......how could i have ever thought that i could watch a screen the way you do....

If you haven't watched the games how can you comment in the first place. There were many games during the season that Brady was running for his life.

***reflexblue*** · 02-25-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

Sacks and QB hits have as much to do with Brady as it does with the line. And, since you didn't actually watch the games, let me fill you in.

Koppen was horrible most of the season. His play "improved" once Mankins returned. Koppen blew blocking calls several times and it got Brady creamed against the Jets and Ravens in particular.

Connolly was below average at LG and average at RG. He's a significant drop off from Neal, nevermind Mankins.

Light isn't signed right now and he may not be back. So the Pats have a big hole to fill at one of the tackle positions depending on what they do with Vollmer and whether or not Light re-signs.

Yes, we'd have heard just as much about McCourty as Bodden because they play different sides of the field. McCourty won the starting job out of camp and he'd have been there opposite Bodden.

I think the interior of the O-line needs to be upgraded, Koppen and Mankins are Ok during the regular season but gotten destroyed going back to the SB in 07.

Ochmed Jones · 02-25-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by reflexblue

I think the interior of the O-line needs to be upgraded, Koppen and Mankins are Ok during the regular season but gotten destroyed going back to the SB in 07.

Was Mankins destroyed or just Koppen? Seems to me that Koppen blew a lot of line calls in that SB.

MaineMan · 02-25-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ochmed Jones

Was Mankins destroyed or just Koppen? Seems to me that Koppen blew a lot of line calls in that SB.

IIRC, Koppen had a sub (Hochstein?) to his right instead of Neal for most of the game. That might tend to screw up communication and timing a bit - especially if you haven't played in a game together since the pre-season.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 02-25-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaineMan

IIRC, Koppen had a sub (Hochstein?) to his right instead of Neal for most of the game. That might tend to screw up communication and timing a bit - especially if you haven't played in a game together since the pre-season.

Billy Yates

MaineMan · 02-25-2011, 03:17 PM

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Billy Yates

Oh, right. Thanks!

bucky · 02-25-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

Billy Yates

I seem to remember Hochstein being tossed on his ass a lot in that game.

***reflexblue*** · 02-25-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ochmed Jones

Was Mankins destroyed or just Koppen? Seems to me that Koppen blew a lot of line calls in that SB.

I'm for replacing Koppen also. Did he blow calls and Mankins had to cover for him...maybe. But that would have to be a lot of calls since the 07 SB. While i have stated that Mankins performance in the playoffs has been poor it doesn't make sense to me why he would play so well in the regular season, then so poorly in the post season. But it seems to be the same problem evry time, pressure up the middle. It was that way in every playoff game starting with the SB in 07. I'd like someone to explain why this seems to happen only in playoffs. I know im not the only one that thinks that mankins under performes in the playoffs, and im not talking about the knee jerk reactionaries that think the sky is falling every time a play doesn't go the patriots way.

Off The Grid · 02-25-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by meggett

i couldnt believe we passed on bryant twice last year. the guy looks like hes gonna be special. your right too, now were gonna pull the trigger on the 3rd or 4th best WR in the 1st round, when we couldve had bryant, the consensus number 1 WR last year and passed....twice?? no way.

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Originally Posted by reflexblue

We got this guy named McCourty, maybe you've heard of him. Anyways what good would a reciever do if the Oline doesn't give Brady enough time to throw to him?

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

About as much good as drafting a RB to run behind a line that doesn't block well...

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Originally Posted by reflexblue

Agreed. A lot of fans get enamored with WR's and RB's and disregard the fact that with out a line to block they arent' worth much. I ve seen WR's and RB's shut down because of a poor O-line, but i dont' think i have to tell you that.

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Ahhh....It brings joy to my heart to hear such Wisdom, gentlemen.

It ALL comes down to Brother Blue's last line there.

You can have WORLD CLASS "Skill Position" talent, and it doesn't matter diddly, if you lose The Battle In The Trenches.

~ Brady and his magnificent crew of Wide Outs couldn't get anything done against the Giants.
~ Better Yet: Peyton and his fun bunch ~ in the 2004 Divisional ~ were HELPLESS against us.

Our O Line Grizzlies have been very good, the last few years.

But "very good" has clearly not been "good enough", without a Tenacious D to pair with.

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That goes for the D-line as well Brother Grid.

Of course it does, my good man: That goes without saying...although I say it often.