reflexblue

What does Bodden playing have to do with the talent Mccourty has, he would have shown it eventually and taken the spot opposite of Bodden. Butler Never showed the talent that mccourty showed. Going by your thinking maybe Bryant would end up a one year wonder. Do you mean Madden the game? If you do forget about it. And finally the O-line played well until it really mattered, which has happened for the last three years or so.

meggett

Mccourty may not have been forced into action his rookie year if we had Bodden from the get go. im not saying hes not good at all. but certain factors played a big part in his success this year. our line has been good for years now. by your logic the regular season dosnt matter. we played against 2 good defenses the last 2 years in the playoffs. both prob were top 5 if not top 3 in the league in their respective years. and no. i dont mean madden the video game, im not even sure what your talking about as to why i would be referring to a video game in the first place.

The line is fine. back to my point, we need playmakers to keep the defense from blitzing Brady and stacking the line. No one fears Tate. And Welker isnt gonna burn anybody for a big play. We need a WR to stretch the field. One that teams have to account for.

this is what i mean about the madden award. im not allowed to post links yet apparently so ill just copy and past it. info from Patriots.com.

CINCINNATI, February 3, 2011 - The New England Patriots added another noteworthy accomplishment to an already impressive 2010 regular season when it was announced the Patriots offensive line has been selected as the winner of the 2010 Madden Most Valuable Protectors Award, presented by Prilosec OTC®. Pro Football Hall of Fame coach JOHN MADDEN and Prilosec OTC presented the award, which honors the NFL's best offensive line, to New England's front five during a press event in North Texas earlier today. Accepting the trophy on behalf of the New England Patriots were offensive linemen Dan Koppen, Dan Connolly and Mark LeVoir.

As a proud six-year sponsor of the NFL, Prilosec OTC presents the Madden Most Valuable Protectors Award to recognize the fundamental role offensive linemen play in their teams' success by providing reliable protection day in and day out, just as Prilosec OTC can provide 24-hour heartburn protection when used as directed1. The award is based on a combination of criteria including offensive line statistics - sacks allowed, rushing and passing yardage, time of possession, O-line penalties, 3rd and 4th down conversion percentages and red zone scoring conversions, fan voting and coach Madden's own personal observations throughout the season.

The Patriots players providing the powerful protection up front this season were tackles MATT LIGHT (Purdue) and SEBASTIAN VOLLMER (Houston); guards DAN CONNOLLY (Southeast Missouri State) and LOGAN MANKINS (Fresno State); and center DAN KOPPEN (Boston College). Adding depth on the Patriots offensive line were, MARK LEVOIR (Notre Dame), STEPHEN NEAL (Cal State-Bakersfield), RICH OHRNBERGER (Penn State), QUINN OJINNAKA (Syracuse) and RYAN WENDELL (Fresno State).

"The offensive line doesn't always catch the fans' attention, so Prilosec OTC and I created this award to recognize the guys who provide the critical run blocking and pass protection," said John Madden. "All season long, these guys proved they had the mental and physical toughness that enabled the Patriots offense to put up impressive numbers on the ground and in the air."

Throughout the regular season, Coach Madden closely tracked the top offensive lines in the NFL and narrowed the field of contenders to five (5) finalists: the ATLANTA FALCONS, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS, NEW YORK GIANTS and the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS. Each of the finalists had been recognized at least once this season by Madden as an "O-Line of the Week" for their consistent and reliable protection.

Contributing to their Madden Most Valuable Protectors Award win, the Patriots offensive line provided reliable run blocking and powerful pass protection for the top-ranked offense in the NFL. The Patriots led the league in points per game (32.4) and ranked 4th in sacks allowed (25). They finished 8th in average yards (363.8), ranked 9th in average rushing yards (123.3) and ranked 11th in passing yards per game (240.4).

Weighing 102 pounds, The Madden Most Valuable Protectors Award trophy is the heaviest trophy in NFL history and is a tribute to the NFL's toughest protectors on the offensive line.

DaBruinz

Sacks and QB hits have as much to do with Brady as it does with the line. And, since you didn't actually watch the games, let me fill you in.

Koppen was horrible most of the season. His play "improved" once Mankins returned. Koppen blew blocking calls several times and it got Brady creamed against the Jets and Ravens in particular.

Connolly was below average at LG and average at RG. He's a significant drop off from Neal, nevermind Mankins.

Light isn't signed right now and he may not be back. So the Pats have a big hole to fill at one of the tackle positions depending on what they do with Vollmer and whether or not Light re-signs.

Yes, we'd have heard just as much about McCourty as Bodden because they play different sides of the field. McCourty won the starting job out of camp and he'd have been there opposite Bodden.

meggett

[QUOTE=DaBruinz;2489463]Sacks and QB hits have as much to do with Brady as it does with the line. And, since you didn't actually watch the games, let me fill you in.


thanks for filling me in. just like you..ive seen just as many games, im just not a dick..something for you to shoot for.

VJCPatriot

Devin McCourty says hi. You know rookie all-pro and pro bowl starter at CB. If you're still bitter about that pick, you haven't been paying attention this past season.

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meggett

i kno, i kno. hahaha. for the last time, I LOVE MCCOURTY. just think Bryant is really good. who knows, McCourty will prob be better than Bryant now that i said that. but we'll see i guess. One more time....i LOVE McCourty!

DaBruinz

You clearly haven't seen squat for games despite your claim to the contrary. And your getting defensive about it proves that I am dead on. Just deal with the fact that you were wrong about McCourty and about the O-line. Do yourself a favor and learn more about the where the team stands in terms of free agents and the positions on the team that are lacking or in need of an infusion of youth. Like the O-line. You'll be better off for it and you won't have to be the dick you claim others are.

Off The Grid

Ahhh....It brings joy to my heart to hear such Wisdom, gentlemen.

It ALL comes down to Brother Blue's last line there.

You can have WORLD CLASS "Skill Position" talent, and it doesn't matter diddly, if you lose The Battle In The Trenches.

~ Brady and his magnificent crew of Wide Outs couldn't get anything done against the Giants.
~ Better Yet: Peyton and his fun bunch ~ in the 2004 Divisional ~ were HELPLESS against us.

Our O Line Grizzlies have been very good, the last few years.

But "very good" has clearly not been "good enough", without a Tenacious D to pair with.

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Love HURTS!!

meggett

your right...you watch TV so much better than me......how could i have ever thought that i could watch a screen the way you do....

reflexblue

That goes for the D-line as well brother Grid.