Pats interested in Michael Bush, Louisville? - New England Patriots Forums

***mcbee*** · 04-14-2007, 10:14 PM

They may be. He fits the mold of a "steal".....if his leg can ever be 100% and it should be. Proably available late 3rd.

WhiZa · 04-15-2007, 07:02 AM

I would draft him in the third

tombonneau · 04-15-2007, 10:38 AM

I still can't believe he has fallen as far as he has because of a broken leg -- suffered in Week 1 of last season.

He was an absolute beast at Louisville. I still remember the game he got hurt in, he was tearing **** up.

Just because he is having a longer than expected recover on a a simple bone break (it's not like its a knee or neck injury) I don't think he really slides that far in the "real world."

I expect him to go in the 2nd. If he is around in the 3rd though, someone is getting a major steal.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 04-15-2007, 11:27 AM

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I still can't believe he has fallen as far as he has because of a broken leg -- suffered in Week 1 of last season.

He was an absolute beast at Louisville. I still remember the game he got hurt in, he was tearing **** up.

Just because he is having a longer than expected recover on a a simple bone break (it's not like its a knee or neck injury) I don't think he really slides that far in the "real world."

I expect him to go in the 2nd. If he is around in the 3rd though, someone is getting a major steal.

The fact he had a steal rod inserted in the bone does argue for more than a "simple" bone break. Recall that Light who also had a simple bone break, required at least two surgeries; and while he did start the next season, he wasn't back to snuff until just before the playoffs. I can see the team doctors shaking their heads when weighing the force a professional football player would put on a still healing bone vs. the average joe. There is also the matter of scheme, blocking scheme, to consider. Bush being a downhill runner may not be best suited to backstop Maroney if the team goes to zone blocking. Maroney has demonstrated his acceleration and change of direction moves, Faulk and Morris both seem to be decent at that too. I like what I've read about Bush, but with a rehab question and a scheme question, I would also wait into Day two before spending a pick.

***BelichickFan*** · 04-15-2007, 11:33 AM

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The fact he had a steal rod inserted in the bone does argue for more than a "simple" bone break.

I read somewhere (sorry no link, I forgot where) that the healing process is going badly enough that he may have a hitch in his walk, never mind his run. With all our comp picks, Bush is intriguing but not on the first day.

tombonneau · 04-15-2007, 12:03 PM

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The fact he had a steal rod inserted in the bone does argue for more than a "simple" bone break. Recall that Light who also had a simple bone break, required at least two surgeries; and while he did start the next season, he wasn't back to snuff until just before the playoffs. I can see the team doctors shaking their heads when weighing the force a professional football player would put on a still healing bone vs. the average joe. There is also the matter of scheme, blocking scheme, to consider. Bush being a downhill runner may not be best suited to backstop Maroney if the team goes to zone blocking. Maroney has demonstrated his acceleration and change of direction moves, Faulk and Morris both seem to be decent at that too. I like what I've read about Bush, but with a rehab question and a scheme question, I would also wait into Day two before spending a pick.

But at the end of the day, a bone break is a bone break, and it will eventually heal -- maybe not in 2007, but it will heal to 100%.

Bush will be a luxury pick for a team that doesn't need production from the RB spot this year. IMO, the guy has Frank Gore written all over him.

I think you do bring up a real salient point though re: running styles. He certainly is not in the Maroney/Faulk/Morris mold, but might that be a good thing? That his style will complement the others? I agree, he is not a cutback zone blocking scheme prototype, but neither is Heath Evans.

***danny88*** · 04-15-2007, 12:10 PM

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But at the end of the day, a bone break is a bone break, and it will eventually heal -- maybe not in 2007, but it will heal to 100%.

Bush will be a luxury pick for a team that doesn't need production from the RB spot this year. IMO, the guy has Frank Gore written all over him.

I think you do bring up a real salient point though re: running styles. He certainly is not in the Maroney/Faulk/Morris mold, but might that be a good thing? That his style will complement the others? I agree, he is not a cutback zone blocking scheme prototype, but neither is Heath Evans.

You make some great points. I think booker would be a better compliment to maroney and co. Wish he was not so damn small tho.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 04-15-2007, 12:36 PM

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But at the end of the day, a bone break is a bone break, and it will eventually heal -- maybe not in 2007, but it will heal to 100%.

Bush will be a luxury pick for a team that doesn't need production from the RB spot this year. IMO, the guy has Frank Gore written all over him.

I think you do bring up a real salient point though re: running styles. He certainly is not in the Maroney/Faulk/Morris mold, but might that be a good thing? That his style will complement the others? I agree, he is not a cutback zone blocking scheme prototype, but neither is Heath Evans.

According to this reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gore, Gore was a 1,000 yd rusher his last year in college, "after" coming back from two seperate ACL injuries. He was a third round pick. Bush, who missed his senior season and had surgery right after the Combine carries greater risk.

tombonneau · 04-15-2007, 01:07 PM

I'm not saying they are total parallels, but both were once thought of as sure-fire first rounders until injury concerns lowered their stock.

And I'm not sure if you watch much college football, but -- not surprisingly --in Gore's senior season he did not look like nearly the stud he was pre-injury, which again, was why he carried a third round grade.

Just because Bush's injury was more recent than Gore's I don't think means he carries more risk.

If you had the same RB and could assign the injury of a one-year-old broken leg vs. a pair 2+ year old ACL surgeries, I think most folks would opt for the RB with the broken leg.

We'll see come draft day though. I still think that Bush goes in the 2nd round to team not in immediate need of RB.

***BelichickFan*** · 04-15-2007, 01:26 PM

If a broken leg doesn't heal correctly, it's not just a simple break. At the outset of his injury I would agree he's low risk but not anymore.