PushnPencils

I don't know if the game was discussed here yet, and if it has my apology in advance.

I'm a big believer in evaluating players from a scrimmage like this.

Although it lacks underclassmen or guys that aren't willing to risk injury, it'sa great evaluator of effort, clutch play in an unfamilar environment and under scrutiny as well as overall comparison against peers.

That being said Patrick Willis is a man amongst boys. From watching this game a couple of times (TIVO) and looking at the stats, I would trade both first rounders to move up and get him.

I really believe his is a phenom and what he supposedly lacks in instinsts he well makes up for in speed.

I'd also be happy with Merriweather and/or Griffin at safety.

Stats are here: http://www.seniorbowl.com/2007/2007seniorbowlstats.htm

PATSNUTme

A brilliant observation. One other poster has advocated the same thing and he has been subject to mock and ridicule from others on this site.

sebman2112

LOL! I guess we're the three amigos.

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Box_O_Rocks

You've never needed to advocate trading for an unsuitable player to earn mock and ridicule.

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PushnPencils

Why? What do the "brains" of this board have against Willis?

Lemme guess, he's too obvious to be good. They're all on board the David Harris bandwagon. A guy who probably had the greatest defensive supporting cast in all of college football.

I guess the arguement is everybody else on Ole Miss stunk so it was easy for Willis to stand out.

Box_O_Rocks

My dear fellow fan, you watched your Tivo of the Senior Bowl and found Willis to be very attractive, I watched my Tivo and saw an ideal 4-3 sideline-to-sideline MLB. As it happens, I would prefer Harris over Willis; however, my #1 Pats' prototypical 3-4 ILB is Stewart Bradley (Nebraska). I find it quite normal for Seb or Nut or yourself to prefer a candidate whom I believe to be a poor fit; sadly, I'd consider the appellation of "brains" to be in better taste if you'd left off the quotes and acknowledged those with different views as the truly charming souls we know ourselves to be.

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PushnPencils

Me no understand fancy talk. Me know this.

Willis - big fast and make many people with ball fall down.

Bradley -big white and slow as snail.

Box_O_Rocks

Ah, this explains much.

Willis - run around like bouncy rubber ball in box, meet big OL and fall down.

Bradley - big white slow as hyper-snail led Nebraska in tackles from SLB, led north squad in tackles from SLB/WLB (half of what Willis had on considerably less playing time). Meet big OL and used long arms to keep them from knocking him down and keeping him out of the play. Also look good in coverage, jam TE, recognize routes quickly, showed nice instincts too.

3-4 ILB needs to fight OL on nearly every play, big white slow as snail guy can make more plays staying on his feet, then speedy bouncy ball guy lying on turf.

I hope this improved our communication efforts.

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VJCPatriot

Well here are the knocks against Willis:
- He is a sideline to sideline linebacker. What could we possibly do with that kind of guy? It would make a lot more sense to get someone with limited mobility.
- He is undersized. Willis weighed only 237 lbs at his pro day, nevermind that his playing weight was actually around 242. Everybody knows it's impossible for him to put on 10 more lbs and play around 250. Who in their right mind would take this kind of PROJECT pick in the 1st?
- He is too fast. Willis ran a 4.37 and 4.38 40 at his pro day. Obviously the only thing that kind of speed is good for is overruning the play! Too fast. Obviously not Patriots linebacker material.
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- He doesn't fit our system. Willis can ONLY play in the 4-3 system. It's pretty obvious to anyone with a brain that he couldn't possibly adapt to the 3-4 system. Who the hell drafts 4-3 linebackers when your system is obviously a 3-4 system! Picking Willis just doesn't make any sense.

I hope that was as educational for you as it was for me. Thanks.

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he doesnt fit a 3-4 because hes too fast? WTF