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Old 03-17-2007, 09:50 AM
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I'm thinking the exact same thing.

Drafting Leonard at 28 would be spectacularly retarded.

This team needs LBs and DBs all day Saturday.
Gee, people said the same thing about drafting Ben Watson. And Logan Mankins in the 1st round.

No, the team doesn't need LBs and DBs all day Saturday. In fact, that would be spectacularly retarded if they did that. Why? Because there is VALUE in DB in the 4th and 5th round. DB, specifically safety, has a tremendous amount of depth this year.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:52 AM
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Right - how often are FB's drafted in the first round?

Trade back into the 2nd and he's still there.
And how oftern had BB drafted a GUARD in the 1st round? Or an interior lineman in general?

I agree that the Pats probably will attempt to trade down into the 2nd and pick leonard or someone else there, but if they can't they will take him when they have to.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:23 AM
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Gee, people said the same thing about drafting Ben Watson. And Logan Mankins in the 1st round.

No, the team doesn't need LBs and DBs all day Saturday. In fact, that would be spectacularly retarded if they did that. Why? Because there is VALUE in DB in the 4th and 5th round. DB, specifically safety, has a tremendous amount of depth this year.

I actually think this draft class is weak overall, when compared to last years class. There does appear to be "value" at Safety in the 3rd/4th, and maybe early 5th rounds. The class at CB is underwhelming this year, and even some of the first round talent at the position would have been 2nd rounders last year. LB Seems to have some value into the 3rd/4th round depending on who last, while WR seems to be the deepest corp in this draft. I actually think RB should be a position with some good value in the 3rd-5th round, and the talent at DT seems to drop after the second/third round.
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No reason to draft Leonard here especially when we drafted a kid last year that fits the same mold, Mills. As the article stated, they invision him as an HBack.. Mills last year was drafted for that purposed.

We have depth at that position with the additions we added this offseason


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Why? Because there is VALUE in DB in the 4th and 5th round. DB, specifically safety, has a tremendous amount of depth this year.
There is no better value than RB late in the draft.... RB's are a dime a dozen and can be found late in the draft. This is why the pick makes no sense.

As someone pointed out, pick best player available.. And I have to believe there is better value than a "hybrid" "HBACK" player at those picks..
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:42 AM
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No reason to draft Leonard here especially when we drafted a kid last year that fits the same mold, Mills. As the article stated, they invision him as an HBack.. Mills last year was drafted for that purposed.

We have depth at that position with the additions we added this offseason
Excepot that MILLS doesn't fit the same mold and you are truly being ignorant for tyring to say that he does. MILLS is NOT a RB. Mills has never been a FB. He's a PROJECT to be a FB. The reason he was projected into the FB positition is because he wasn't tall enough to be a TE and because people felt he could get his pads down low enough to block as a FB out of the backfield.

Leonard is MORE than just a FB. And that is what you are missing. Leonard has the ability to be a NORTH/SOUTH Style runner from the RB position. He's also got the ability to lead-block, run from the FB position, and run routes. He's also decent at picking up blitzes. He could become a 3rd down style back. A change of pace from Maroney's slashing style running.



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There is no better value than RB late in the draft.... RB's are a dime a dozen and can be found late in the draft. This is why the pick makes no sense.

As someone pointed out, pick best player available.. And I have to believe there is better value than a "hybrid" "HBACK" player at those picks..
It makes no sense to you because you have yourself believing that because people describe Mills as an H-back and Leonard as having the ability to fill that role, it means they are from the same mold.

They're not and its pure ignorance to believe otherwise.
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If BB drafts Leonard with #28, why automatically assume its a mistake? Maybe BB thinks the kid will be the next Larry Centers...
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Excepot that MILLS doesn't fit the same mold and you are truly being ignorant for tyring to say that he does. MILLS is NOT a RB.
Never once did I say he was a running back

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It makes no sense to you because you have yourself believing that because people describe Mills as an H-back and Leonard as having the ability to fill that role, it means they are from the same mold.

They're not and its pure ignorance to believe otherwise.
Having a different position on a debate is not being ignorant. Mills was projected to play the position you have Leonard at..

Mills is a very smart player who has been able to line up in a variety of different positions (in-line tight end, H-back and fullback) without making mental errors.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/mills_garrett
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:54 AM
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No, the team doesn't need LBs and DBs all day Saturday. In fact, that would be spectacularly retarded if they did that. Why? Because there is VALUE in DB in the 4th and 5th round. DB, specifically safety, has a tremendous amount of depth this year.
I don't care just about value we also need pure quality.

I want a piece of the Safeties in the 3rd or 4th round, yes. But I also want a top echelon one in ROUND ONE. And a LB or CB in ROUND ONE assuming one we like is there.

I don't want Leonard then two more James Sanders just because he was good value.
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I don't want Leonard then two more James Sanders just because he was good value.
Great Point and I concur
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:09 AM
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I don't care just about value we also need pure quality.

I want a piece of the Safeties in the 3rd or 4th round, yes. But I also want a top echelon one in ROUND ONE. And a LB or CB in ROUND ONE assuming one we like is there.

I don't want Leonard then two more James Sanders just because he was good value.
You have the same idea as me. I want a Safety in the first, and a Safety in either the third, or fourth round. I would like a LB in either the 1st/3rd/4th, and a CB in either the 1st/3rd/4th.

My first option would be CB and Safety in the first with a LB in the third, and another Safety in the fourth. That's only FOUR picks out of the TEN they should have on draft day. If people wan't DE's/OG's/OT's/RB's/WR's/DT's use the final SIX draft picks on them. It's not like they only have 5 picks, or something.
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