Jon Abbate ILB Wake Forest - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***BelichickFan*** · #11 03-15-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by patsgo

do you think bill could coach zack thomas?

There's exceptions here and there although Thomas has never played in a defense like ours. I'm not saying he couldn't play for us, just that he leaves me unexcited.

Canada's #1 Pats Fan · #12 03-15-2007, 03:12 PM

According to Draftstock.com, Abbate's height (post combine) is 5'9" and three quarters. Man that is short.

SamBamsFan · #13 03-15-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sebman2112

Bruschi is actually just under 6'1" (they're being generous), while Abbate is 5'11 1/2". There is maybe 1 inch between the two. Plus your trunk is much more important at ILB, than your height.

From the NFL Combine stats Abbatte is 5-9 3/4, 231 lbs and runs the 40 in just under 5 seconds (4.98). He is 3 inches shorter than Bruschi, and unless he gets his time down to the 4.7 range he wouldn't be drafted until the 6th round IMO.

Remix 6 · #14 03-15-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sebman2112

Oh, and Abbate does have long arms.....

From Abbate's Agility test:
"Campus: 4.67 in the 40-yard dash … 360-pound bench press … 500-pound squat … 315-pound power clean … 32-inch vertical jump … 31 5/8-inch arm length … 9¼-inch hands."

Compare that to 6'2" 239lbs Michigan ILB David Harris:
"Campus: 4.66 in the 40-yard dash … 355-pound bench press … 30¾-inch arm length … 9 1/8-inch hands."

those #s are false..he ran at combine

5.02 or 5.04..hes measured in at under 5"10.. he lifted well but boy was he SLOW

Fencer · #15 03-15-2007, 05:19 PM

When a guy is that slow is he much use on STs?

Remix 6 · #16 03-15-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fencer

When a guy is that slow is he much use on STs?

sure..but dont expect him to be first 1 down there

sebman2112 · #17 03-15-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

those #s are false..he ran at combine

5.02 or 5.04..hes measured in at under 5"10.. he lifted well but boy was he SLOW

I can find you about four different height measurements and 40 times for most of these guys. Some who ran slow at the combine (Reggie Nelson) blazed at their Pro Days. It's just the name of the game.

Also, if his timing slow and coming in short at the combine means he'll be around in the fourth, fifth, or even sixth round that's fine with me. If the guy slips and NE only has to take a flyer pick on him all the better.

SamBamsFan · #18 03-15-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sebman2112

I can find you about four different height measurements and 40 times for most of these guys. Some who ran slow at the combine (Reggie Nelson) blazed at their Pro Days. It's just the name of the game.

Also, if his timing slow and coming in short at the combine means he'll be around in the fourth, fifth, or even sixth round that's fine with me. If the guy slips and NE only has to take a flyer pick on him all the better.

Here is a good site that will provide you w/ their combine results which are those most accurate out there:
http://fflivewire.com/players/Player...Num=9&GO=GO%21

harveyw · #19 03-15-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sebman2112

Oh, and Abbate does have long arms.....

From Abbate's Agility test:
"Campus: 4.67 in the 40-yard dash … 360-pound bench press … 500-pound squat … 315-pound power clean … 32-inch vertical jump … 31 5/8-inch arm length … 9¼-inch hands."

Compare that to 6'2" 239lbs Michigan ILB David Harris:
"Campus: 4.66 in the 40-yard dash … 355-pound bench press … 30¾-inch arm length … 9 1/8-inch hands."

Stats are stats, Abbate was far and away the better performer of the 2. Do you recall a great stats guy going into the combine? I can come up with Mike Mammula and he was god awful. Abbate would be a great mid round addition to the Defense.

Remix 6 · #20 03-15-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by harveyw

Stats are stats, Abbate was far and away the better performer of the 2. Do you recall a great stats guy going into the combine? I can come up with Mike Mammula and he was god awful. Abbate would be a great mid round addition to the Defense.

^we dont even know if those stats are correct..thats not Pro Day..Michigan didnt even have theres yet and i dont think WAke did either

Harris: 4.53 , 23reps
Abbate: 4.98, 26 reps

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