Griffin VS. Nelson - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
Men's Apparel Jerseys Hats Novelties Throwback Women's Youth
 
REGISTER FOR PATSFANS.COM

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!


Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum > Patriots Draft Talk
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-11-2007, 04:16 PM   #31
Moderatrix
 
patchick's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 10,320
Default The "other" safeties

In the constant merry-go-round of Landry-vs-Nelson-vs-Griffin-vs-Meriweather, I'm increasingly tempted to vote "none of the above." There is a lot of quality depth at the position this year, and I'd be perfectly happy if the Pats could nab a couple of these guys instead...

(Criteria include balanced pass/run skills, field smarts, ball skills, tackling. Order is alphabetical.)

Josh Gattis, Wake Forest
6'1" 206
A strong, physical player with passion and intensity that earn a lot of comparisons to Rodney Harrison. Speed/quickness measurables are only average, but plays faster than he measures. Sturdy against both run and pass. Smart player, but can get out of control at times due to intensity.

Will Gulley
, Houston
6'3" 220
Gulley is a big, physical SS, a solid, hard-hitting tackler with excellent hands and ball skills -- a knack for both interceptions and forcing fumbles. Missed a season with a serious knee injury. Legitimate prospect who's often overlooked because he didn't get a combine invite.

Sabby Piscitelli
, Oregon State
6'3" 220
Smart, experienced, athletic and a leader. Big, fast, durable, great hands for the interception. Only knock on him: not hugely physical, not the hardest hitter in the bunch.

Eric Weddle, Utah
5'11" 205
Versatile player who could line up at SS or CB but probably projects to FS. Accomplished, well-rounded DB in college with good on-and-off-field intelligence. Special teams standout. Not considered a great athlete, but has exceptional burst; 1.43 10-yard split!

John Wendling, Wyoming
6'1", 220
Excellent athlete with great speed/leaping ability. All-around smarts (Draddy finalist) with good field awareness. Strong frame, hard hitter. Level of competition a big question mark.
patchick is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 03-11-2007, 04:24 PM   #32
In the Starting Line-up
 
Seneschal2's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vermont
Posts: 2,221
My Mood: Inspired
Default Re: Griffin VS. Nelson

Beam me up please...

Will you folks please get your Free Safeties (FS) and Strong Safeties (SS) organized?!

To save ya'll some time, some of the Safety prospects play one (FS) or the other (SS) -- and some have played both (FS/SS). And some (SS) may be better suited for (FS). Now I'll leave it to everyone to figure out who plays what.
__________________
"What we want to try to do is maximize each spot on the roster; we want to be stronger at No. 1 than the opponent, stronger at No. 25 than they are, and stronger at No. 53 than they are, we're always looking to upgrade the talent level on the team, and play together to be functional."
- Bill Belichick -
Seneschal2 is offline  
Old 03-11-2007, 04:52 PM   #33
Moderatrix
 
patchick's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 10,320
Default Re: Griffin VS. Nelson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seneschal2 View Post
Beam me up please...

Will you folks please get your Free Safeties (FS) and Strong Safeties (SS) organized?!

To save ya'll some time, some of the Safety prospects play one (FS) or the other (SS) -- and some have played both (FS/SS). And some (SS) may be better suited for (FS). Now I'll leave it to everyone to figure out who plays what.
You know, I actually thought about it. But it's hard to project from college, where a star player is usually positioned for overall impact. And it's been said in the past that the distinction isn't so strong in the Pats' defense -- more of a left vs. right safety. Which is a long way of saying I wimped out and lumped them all together.
patchick is offline  
Old 03-11-2007, 05:43 PM   #34
In the Starting Line-up
 
Seneschal2's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vermont
Posts: 2,221
My Mood: Inspired
Default Re: Griffin VS. Nelson

Quote:
Originally Posted by patchick View Post
You know, I actually thought about it. But it's hard to project from college, where a star player is usually positioned for overall impact. And it's been said in the past that the distinction isn't so strong in the Pats' defense -- more of a left vs. right safety. Which is a long way of saying I wimped out and lumped them all together.
Uh oh, I hope you weren't thinking I was referring to your excellent post patchick. I'd just finished reading 3 pages of posts and decided to have some fun. Read your post after mine was submitted. Love the left/right theory (an accurate one). I didn't want to mention that aspect of the Pats secondary -- there was enough confusion already.

BTW, terrific Safety options this draft -- ya think?
__________________
"What we want to try to do is maximize each spot on the roster; we want to be stronger at No. 1 than the opponent, stronger at No. 25 than they are, and stronger at No. 53 than they are, we're always looking to upgrade the talent level on the team, and play together to be functional."
- Bill Belichick -
Seneschal2 is offline  
Old 03-11-2007, 06:46 PM   #35
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: On the ledge
Posts: 1,165
My Mood: Amused
Default Re: Griffin VS. Nelson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seneschal2 View Post
Uh oh, I hope you weren't thinking I was referring to your excellent post patchick. I'd just finished reading 3 pages of posts and decided to have some fun. Read your post after mine was submitted. Love the left/right theory (an accurate one). I didn't want to mention that aspect of the Pats secondary -- there was enough confusion already.

BTW, terrific Safety options this draft -- ya think?
Just my opinion. There are great choices. I just don't see any great 1st round choices @ 24 & 28. Just reinforcing what Patchick said (along w/ dryheat & many others).
__________________
""Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"
Samuel Johnson
SamBamsFan is offline  
Old 03-11-2007, 08:06 PM   #36
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
Box_O_Rocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 20,550
Default Re: Griffin VS. Nelson

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamBamsFan View Post
Just my opinion. There are great choices. I just don't see any great 1st round choices @ 24 & 28. Just reinforcing what Patchick said (along w/ dryheat & many others).
As one of those others I naturally concur, as far as I can see, there are decent looking big/fast Safeties who will go undrafted in this class. I'll be watching the Practice Squad turnover to see how many Pioli cycles through for team tryouts this Fall.
__________________
"Avert thine eyes! You're not hot enough to be looking at me."
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Box_O_Rocks is offline  
Old 03-11-2007, 09:42 PM   #37
In the Starting Line-up
 
Seneschal2's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vermont
Posts: 2,221
My Mood: Inspired
Default Re: Griffin VS. Nelson

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamBamsFan View Post
Just my opinion. There are great choices. I just don't see any great 1st round choices @ 24 & 28. Just reinforcing what Patchick said (along w/ dryheat & many others).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks View Post
As one of those others I naturally concur...
Also as one of 'The Others' (wasn't that the name of a supernatural flick?), been saying for some time now how deep the Safety position is, and if we pass on one in the first, chances are we'll still get one later on.

Actually, even if we grabbed Nelson in round one, I'd still go SS later.
__________________
"What we want to try to do is maximize each spot on the roster; we want to be stronger at No. 1 than the opponent, stronger at No. 25 than they are, and stronger at No. 53 than they are, we're always looking to upgrade the talent level on the team, and play together to be functional."
- Bill Belichick -
Seneschal2 is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563