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Re: Apparently Brandon Graham wants the Pats to draft him
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Originally Posted by WelshPat
WR was a huge problem, but we have lots of early picks and can get a good WR in the draft. It's not like rookies can't come in and play well. Desean Jackson, Eddie Royal, Jeremy Maclin, even someone like a Donnie Avery.
It's exactly like rookies can't come in and play well. When have we had a rookie WR as a major contributor? Julian Edelman and Deion Branch have been the most successful.
We already have 2 young WRs in Edelman and Tate. We don't need more youngsters. And we have other needs to address with the draft.
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Re: Apparently Brandon Graham wants the Pats to draft him
Other than Dez Bryant, there are no WRs worth taking in the first round, so...
Wait until the 2nd or 3rd round. If you take Dez in the first, I would not be opposed to making trades for extra picks (i.e. 2011 to 2010) that would allow you to grab another WR in the 3rd.
The Patriots may decide that there's more of a premium on OLB/DEs.
No one can really distinguish between LaFell, Damian Williams, Gilyard, Tate, Thomas and a host of others that will be looked at as 2nd rounders. Therefore, go to the premium pick in the first round.
If only we signed Dansby, the Patriots could focus on needs instead of worrying about ILB.
Re: Apparently Brandon Graham wants the Pats to draft him
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Originally Posted by mayoclinic
It's exactly like rookies can't come in and play well. When have we had a rookie WR as a major contributor? Julian Edelman and Deion Branch have been the most successful.
We already have 2 young WRs in Edelman and Tate. We don't need more youngsters. And we have other needs to address with the draft.
Except Tate has had to ACL injuries and Edelman is a slot guy.
So we're back to last year's offense. Besides the Colts young receivers, we've seen Mike Wallace, Johnny Knox and Deon Butler play well last year.
And the year before there were more mid-rounders that came in and performed.
I believe we need quantity more than quality, so if the Patriots land a guy opposite Moss and slot Edelman, then the 4th kid is not going to see double coverage. That helps a kid like Collie immensely with the Colts. If there was no Dallas Clark or Garcon there, Collie would not have had as much of an impact, but it's the numbers of weapons that make the difference.
With four capable guys going out for passes in today's NFL, one of them will get open within 3 seconds of the snap.
Re: Apparently Brandon Graham wants the Pats to draft him
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Originally Posted by Warren94
I agree upstater,
edelman, moss, and who after that?
Tate, Benn, Williams from Tulane, Gilyard would give Brady a better choice of weapons due to the fact we have whiffed in our fa signing at wr.
I still think signing TO for one season with an option for a second is a good idea. He'd be the perfect player to line up on the other side opposite Moss. We could then focus on the defense with our first few picks and then work on our WR core a little deeper in the draft.
I believe Brandon Graham won the MVP award in the Senior Bowl last week. We could do a lot worse.
Re: Apparently Brandon Graham wants the Pats to draft him
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Originally Posted by Rob0729
I think defense, defense, and more defense is the Pats top priorities. Few WRs make an impact their rookie season and by the time they might, Welker will be back.
In recent years, some wideouts have had success in their rookie years. Desean Jackson, Eddie Royal, Jeremy Maclin, Percy Harvin, Donnie Avery, Johnny Knox, Austin Collie, Hakeem Nicks, Mike Wallace, Davone Bess, Michael Crabtree, Mohammed Massoqui...just to name a few. These are all guys we could've drafted, and MOST of them (except for Crabtree) share one thing in common - which is that they aren't your prototypical #1 wideout in terms of size or 40 speed, but are known for their ability to separate. They are quick, they can run routes and get open.
The Patriots will have plenty of opportunity to draft a guy like that this year who could come in and be a huge improvement over Aiken. Heck, Tate - if he didn't get hurt again - might've been just that. I like how Gilyard looks, and if he's there with one of our 2nd rounders, I might hope we pull the trigger on that.
Re: Apparently Brandon Graham wants the Pats to draft him
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Originally Posted by BradyManny
In recent years, some wideouts have had success in their rookie years. Desean Jackson, Eddie Royal, Jeremy Maclin, Percy Harvin, Donnie Avery, Johnny Knox, Austin Collie, Hakeem Nicks, Mike Wallace, Davone Bess, Michael Crabtree, Mohammed Massoqui...just to name a few. These are all guys we could've drafted, and MOST of them (except for Crabtree) share one thing in common - which is that they aren't your prototypical #1 wideout in terms of size or 40 speed, but are known for their ability to separate. They are quick, they can run routes and get open.
The Patriots will have plenty of opportunity to draft a guy like that this year who could come in and be a huge improvement over Aiken. Heck, Tate - if he didn't get hurt again - might've been just that. I like how Gilyard looks, and if he's there with one of our 2nd rounders, I might hope we pull the trigger on that.
Most of the guys you listed were not first round picks. Many weren't even drafted in the second or third round. Only a few of them were first round value after the fact even if they weren't taken in the first round.
The Pats can get a WR in the later rounds. The Pats don't need to spend a first on a WR. WR depth was the problem this year and you don't get WR depth in the first or second round. With Welker a question mark, a starter may be needed, but Edelman with a year under his belt and an offseason working with Brady might make him 90-95% of Welker in year two.
I still think the Pats' top priority is the front seven of the defense. They need a DE, two OLBs, and an ILB. The Pats need to stop relying on the offense to win games.