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Old 01-27-2010, 11:15 PM   #21
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Edelman -> Kerry Meier? (don't think hes nearly as quick)
Vollmer -> Any similar this year? (I know its still early, hell what was his status before the draft?)
In shorts, even Welker isn't as quick as Edelman. There might be five or so guys in the NFL right now as quick as Edelman. Kerry Meier may end up my 7th round binky, b/c he's a QB-to-WR conversion already in progress.

As far as Mt. Vollmer goes, the nearest comparison I can think of is Jared Veldheer, who had neither the opponents nor the pedigree that Vollmer had (Vollmer was LT for the #1 offense in Div IA in 2008).
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Wednesday North practice notes from Scott Wright at NFLdraftcountdown:

- "After an eye-opening performance yesterday Arkansas State DE Alex Carrington stood out again. In fact, one of the highlights of the morning was when Carrington plowed over Shawn Lauvao. That play drew a huge reaction from his teammates and onlookers. New addition Thomas Welch got a rude welcome in his first practice when Carrington gave him the same treatment. Needless to say Carrington is extremely powerful and aggressive. Is Carrington this year’s Lawrence Sidbury?"

- "Idaho OG Mike Iupati, who is finally starting to get the recognition he deserves. I’ve been extremely high on Iupati for months and now everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Coming into this week Iupati was a potential first rounder but based on the way he has played in Mobile 'potential' could soon become 'sure-fire'."

- "Michigan DE Brandon Graham is tenacious and has been one of the best players at this year’s game. He may lack the ideal height and speed you look for Graham is an outstanding football player and that has been quite evident all week long."

- "Murray State DE Austen Lane struggled to get off of blocks and required repeated instruction from the coaching staff."

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- DE Alex Carrington: "Just continues to look solid all around. His has attacked offensive linemen aggressively. He has tremendous power. Today, Shawn Lauvao became his victim as Carrington blew through and over the blocker with the authority one should expect of a penetrator running a proper stunt. Carrington looks more like a potential 5 technique for 34 based teams with his spectacular play.
Could someone explain this '5-technique' to me?
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Could someone explain this '5-technique' to me?
There are at least 8 different techniques known to be used in the dark arts of the trenches. This is one of the more advanced. The '5-technique' is a multi-pronged attack, wherein five different moves--any combination of jabs, ducks, weaves, darts, slides, shimmies, etc--are used at once. If successful, the 5-technique may do great harm to opponents' backfields. It is a very difficult technique to master.

Needless to say, 1-techniques abound even in high school and few in the game's history have ever been able to master the 8 technique--this is often attributed to the lack of 9 and 11 step drops that would give a defender time to pull off eight moves. As most lineman coming into the league will have, at best, a shimmy, a weave, a jab, and a dart, coming up with four other moves in the three seconds it takes before the quarterman rids himself of the pill is near impossible. So a legitimate 5-technique is a good find. I only hope he can jab and dart--unlike the inept "slide, shimmy, slide" debacles that we fans old enough to remember them were forced to watch. Jazz it up, we'd say! Jab!

Anyway, that's my understanding of it. My friend Elmer says it has something to do with lining one's nose on the outside shoulder of the tackle for leverage purposes, but I can never understand his made up jargon. He is not as avid a follower of the Sunday ritual as I.

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There are at least 8 different techniques known to be used in the dark arts of the trenches. This is one of the more advanced. The '5-technique' is a multi-pronged attack, wherein five different moves--any combination of jabs, ducks, weaves, darts, slides, shimmies, etc--are used at once. If successful, the 5-technique may do great harm to opponents' backfields. It is a very difficult technique to master.

Needless to say, 1-techniques abound even in high school and few in the game's history have ever been able to master the 8 technique--this is often attributed to the lack of 9 and 11 step drops that would give a defender time to pull off eight moves. As most lineman coming into the league will have, at best, a shimmy, a weave, a jab, and a dart, coming up with four other moves in the three seconds it takes before the quarterman rids himself of the pill is near impossible. So a legitimate 5-technique is a good find. I only hope he can jab and dart--unlike the inept "slide, shimmy, slide" debacles that we fans old enough to remember them were forced to watch. Jazz it up, we'd say! Jab!

Anyway, that's my understanding of it. My friend Elmer says it has something to do with lining one's nose on the outside shoulder of the tackle for leverage purposes, but I can never understand his made up jargon. He is not as avid a follower of the Sunday ritual as I.
This is correct....It is all about alignment....
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Why not instead have him gain ten pounds and play him at DE as Jarvis' (and dare I say Seymour's?) replacement? He could also prob. play 4-3 DT in passing situations.
Gaining weight usually negatively affects players quickness.
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There are at least 8 different techniques known to be used in the dark arts of the trenches. This is one of the more advanced. The '5-technique' is a multi-pronged attack, wherein five different moves--any combination of jabs, ducks, weaves, darts, slides, shimmies, etc--are used at once. If successful, the 5-technique may do great harm to opponents' backfields. It is a very difficult technique to master.

Needless to say, 1-techniques abound even in high school and few in the game's history have ever been able to master the 8 technique--this is often attributed to the lack of 9 and 11 step drops that would give a defender time to pull off eight moves. As most lineman coming into the league will have, at best, a shimmy, a weave, a jab, and a dart, coming up with four other moves in the three seconds it takes before the quarterman rids himself of the pill is near impossible. So a legitimate 5-technique is a good find. I only hope he can jab and dart--unlike the inept "slide, shimmy, slide" debacles that we fans old enough to remember them were forced to watch. Jazz it up, we'd say! Jab!

Anyway, that's my understanding of it. My friend Elmer says it has something to do with lining one's nose on the outside shoulder of the tackle for leverage purposes, but I can never understand his made up jargon. He is not as avid a follower of the Sunday ritual as I.
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Some notes from TFYdraft on Wednesday South practice:

- RB/WR Dexter McCluster: "In a term- wow! Showed amazing quickness and burst. Got a rise from scouts after the hole was seemingly closing up then out of nowhere McCluster popped out of the pile."

- OG Mike Johnson: "Played with wide base and was caught leaning on defenders too often. As a result he fell off numerous assignments. He does have very strong hands once he latches on to an opponent."

- DT Terrance Cody: "It is easy to know what to expect of Cody at this point. He is tough to handle one on one by his size. He can reestablish the line of scrimmage when blocked by a single lineman. He demands a double. He is not much of a pass rusher, though he did attempt to throw a move or two in there during individual drills."

- DT Dan Williams: "Very tough to handle in the middle. He fires off the ball low and hard consistently. He guts under offensive linemen’s pads and often overpowers. He can eat up double teams successfully."

- LB Eric Norwood: "Put forth a very solid effort in pass rush drills, consistently beating his man in 1 on 1 drills. He didn’t fare as well in coverage however, where he was caught a step behind on more than one occasion."

- S Taylor Mays: "Once again struggled. Looked terrible in coverage drills. Really struggled pedaling in reverse and cannot drive out of his plant. He rarely made any plays on the action if the pass catcher was just a few feet in front of him."

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There are at least 8 different techniques known to be used in the dark arts of the trenches. This is one of the more advanced. The '5-technique' is a multi-pronged attack, wherein five different moves--any combination of jabs, ducks, weaves, darts, slides, shimmies, etc--are used at once. If successful, the 5-technique may do great harm to opponents' backfields. It is a very difficult technique to master.

Needless to say, 1-techniques abound even in high school and few in the game's history have ever been able to master the 8 technique--this is often attributed to the lack of 9 and 11 step drops that would give a defender time to pull off eight moves. As most lineman coming into the league will have, at best, a shimmy, a weave, a jab, and a dart, coming up with four other moves in the three seconds it takes before the quarterman rids himself of the pill is near impossible. So a legitimate 5-technique is a good find. I only hope he can jab and dart--unlike the inept "slide, shimmy, slide" debacles that we fans old enough to remember them were forced to watch. Jazz it up, we'd say! Jab!

Anyway, that's my understanding of it. My friend Elmer says it has something to do with lining one's nose on the outside shoulder of the tackle for leverage purposes, but I can never understand his made up jargon. He is not as avid a follower of the Sunday ritual as I.
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