mayoclinic

CBSSports/NFLdraftscout now has their rankings updated to include the declared underclassmen in the 2010 draft:

NFL Draft - 2010 Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Of interest:

5. Joe Haden, CB
6. CJ Spiller, RB
8. Derrick Morgan, DE
10. Rolando McClain, ILB
13. Carlos Dunlap, DE
14. Everson Griffen, DE
22. Mike Iupati, OG
24. Brian Bulaga, OT
25. Dan Williams, DT
27. Bruce Campbell, OT
30. Jahvid Best, RB
38. Maurkice Pouncey, OG/C
43. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE
49. Terrance Cody, DT
52. Jerry Hughes, OLB
58. Jon Asamoah, OG
64. Sean Weatherspoon, LB
66. Mike Johnson, OG
73. Greg Hardy, DE
81. Dexter McCluster, RB
83. Vladimir Duccasse, OG
86. Toby Gerhart, RB
96. Austen Lane, DE
102. Eric Norwood, LB
118. Micah Johnson, ILB
140. Vince Oghobasse, DT
145. Jared Veldheer, OT
159. Freddie Barnes, WR
161. Zoltan Mesko, P
216. Clifton Geathers, DE
226. Chris Marinelli, OT

Interesting rankings. If things followed this order, I'd trade (probably Adalius Thomas and a conditional pick) to get somewhere into the 3rd round and I'd go with:

22. Dan Williams, DE/DT Tennessee
42. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE/OLB, USF
47. Vladimir Ducasse, OT/OG, UMass
53. Dexter McCluster, RB/WR, Mississippi
3rd round. Austen Lane, DE/OLB, Murray St. Though I could make an argument for Micah Johnson or Eric Norwood.
4th round. Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale.
6th and 7th rounds: DE Clifton Geathers, and trade up for P Zoltan Mesko and WR Freddie Barnes.

Pretty nice draft.

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dryheat44

You seem to be in love with some small school guys this year. Interesting. A second round pick on a 1AA lineman? A fourth round pick on another lineman from a school I've never heard of prior to last week?

I think you're the most reliable amateur scout on this board, but have you seen these guys play at all?

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stevedogc

Since the season has ended I have finally been looking into the draft. Micah Johnson is looking like he may be my binkie this year. He looks like a beast.

NePatriots

Chris Marinelli at 226 is ridiculous... I think he will be a starting RT in the NFL next year. Having a great Shrine Bowl week so far.

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mayoclinic

It's really hard to get film on some of them, and some of it is projection. I'm obviously not a pro scout, and even the pro's have had trouble getting adequate college film. I've seen a bit of Ducasse, and he seems like a real mauler with good feet. Reminds me a lot of Carl Nicks from Nebraska, who made the pro bowl this year at RT.

Austen Lane and Jared Veldheer are projections at this point. Both have tantalizing size and athleticism. I've only seem very limited tape of either. I'm looking forward to seeing both in Texas vs. the Nation. My projection is based on the assumption that they play well and perform well at the combine.

Few of us had heard of Sebastian Vollmer last year. There's lots talented guys out there. Just because they're FCS guys doesn't mean they don't have talent.

I freely admit I'm partially pushing them in order to make sure they get attention. If they don't grade out, fine. But I'm not the only one to show interest. Nolan Nawrocki put Veldheer on his All American team at OT (not FCA All American team; including all Division I prospects), for example.

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mayoclinic

Chris Marinelli is one of my sleepers. I think he'll be a terrific RT in time. I've been pushing Jared Veldheer, who has unreal size/athleticism, but I'd be very happy with Marinelli as a developmental RT pick.

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mgteich

Why Ducassse over Johnson or even Asomah? Given what little I ahve seen this early, I would be inclined to draft Johnson as 47 or 53 and be very happy with the choice.

mayoclinic

Why?

1. I consider Ducasse a much better prospect than either Asamoah or Johnson.

2. I think he will be a concensus much better prospect by the time the draft comes around. Many boards consider him a 1st/2nd roun pick.

3. He has more upside and athleticism than either Johnson or Asamoah.

4. He has more positional flexibility.

I like Johnson and Asamoah, but as of right now I'd consider them a reach at 53. I'd consider Ducasse a steal at 47.

It will be interesting to compare Johnson and Ducasse at the Senior Bowl practices.

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upstater1

Asomah may work as well as Ducasse but Johnson does nothing toward filling out all the Patriots OL spots with guys from other countries.

Nonentity

If you play guard throughout college, it generally means that you don't have the most fantastic athleticism. After all, colleges need NFL-caliber tackles more than they need NFL-caliber guards. After all, Logan Mankins was a left tackle in college but projected beautifully to guard in the NFL. Ducasse is in the same situation.

In addition, the Patriots like to use their guards on a lot of pulls. You need good footwork and reasonable athleticism to do that. This may be why it makes more sense to pick guards who can also play tackle over guards who are strictly guards.