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Old 01-16-2010, 09:16 PM   #91
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So many needs in a deep draft. I would love to have McClain but this is the perfect year to have 3 2nd rounders. I'm in the hold on to your horses camp.
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So many needs in a deep draft. I would love to have McClain but this is the perfect year to have 3 2nd rounders. I'm in the hold on to your horses camp.
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So many needs in a deep draft. I would love to have McClain but this is the perfect year to have 3 2nd rounders. I'm in the hold on to your horses camp.
It can also be looked at the other way around. You can go ahead and trade for two firsts in a deep draft and hold out that in later rounds you get good talent. Im in between. Im willing to part ways with one or two of the seconds if its the right guy (McClain, or a slipping Haden)
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It can also be looked at the other way around. You can go ahead and trade for two firsts in a deep draft and hold out that in later rounds you get good talent. Im in between. Im willing to part ways with one or two of the seconds if its the right guy (McClain, or a slipping Haden)
There's nothing wrong with that all. I love both the players. However it is early, there is going to be players that drop and players that explode into the first 3 rounds. Combine/workouts bowls etc.

This is easily one of the best drafts in a decade for DE/DT/G. It's so deep that you are still going to get excellent prospects far into the second round. And we happen to have 3 picks there. What if we end up getting Spikes,Dunlap or Kindle with our 1st pick and then by some reason one of Dunlap/Kindle or Hughes happen to fall to us with the 1st 2nd rounder? I call that and improved defense with ferocity behind it. And they can still get a guard to replace Neal.
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It can also be looked at the other way around. You can go ahead and trade for two firsts in a deep draft and hold out that in later rounds you get good talent. Im in between. Im willing to part ways with one or two of the seconds if its the right guy (McClain, or a slipping Haden)
I've thought about this and I think it's possible to trade up for McClain without giving up massive quantities of picks.

The Pats have the 22nd pick right? Let's say Mcclain drops to 11. And the Pats want to take him. Miami picks at #12 and we don't really want him to get away to them and it is less likely they want to trade to improve the Pats. But our good old friend Josh McDaniels is picking at #11. I think he would be quite interested in moving down and picking up more draft picks.

What does Trade Value chart say in this situation?

Ok the chart says that pick #11 is worth 1,250 points.

Pick #22 is worth 780 points. And pick #47 is worth 430 points. That's a total of 1210 points.

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So that's roughly equal value. Josh McDaniels is happy because he gets more shots in this year's draft to restock his team and we are happy because we got our guy.

But let's say we want more picks after that? We could trade down with any of our remaining 2nd round picks and pick up say a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year, etc. There are lots of options because the Pats have so many picks.

I don't think it 'breaks' our draft to move up for McClain, that is if BB believes that McClain is worth it. Remember that he also traded up for Ty Warren as well as Daniel Graham so the precedent does exist.
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