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Old 10-08-2009, 12:54 PM   #1
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Here's a new 3 rounder from Walter football:

WalterFootball.com: 2010 NFL Mock Draft

They have the Pats picking at 26, 42, 48 and 58, and have us taking:

26. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma St. Doubt he lasts this long, but I don't want us to go WR in 2010.
42. Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech. A home run as far as I'm concerned.
48. George Selvie, DE/OLB, South Florida. Not the DE/OLB I'd pick.
58. Mich Petrus, OG, Arkansas.

Given picking at those spots and the draft falling as they have it, my choice would be:

26. One of 3 players:
- Derrick Morgan, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech. 6'4", 270#, a young Jared Allen (going #27 to Minnesota, which would be scary).
- Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri. 6'2", 247#, in the Patrick Willis mold (going #30 to New Orleans, which would also be scary).
- Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama. 6'4", 255# SILB (going #31 to the Colts, which would be a misfit).
I'd probably go for Morgan right now, but it's close. I'd be ecstatic if any of the 3 were available when we actually pick in the 1st round.
42. Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech. 6'1" 235#. A young Corey Dillon.
41 (trade up with Buffalo). One of 3 players:
- Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU. 6'2", 257# (going #43 to Miami).
- Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas. 6'4", 255#, probably under 4.60 (going #44 to Arizona).
- Brankon Spikes, ILB, Florida. 6'3", 253# (going #45 to Dallas).
At 41 with Jonathan Dwyer and these 3 guys on the board and us picking at 42 and 48 (and Miami, Arizona and Dallas picking 43-45) I'd try to trade up to make sure I get one of them. Who I take depends on who went at 26. If we took Weatherspoon or McClain, then I go with Hughes or Kindle at DE/OLB. M-W-F I'd take Kindle. T-Th-F I'd go with Hughes. I'd prefer either to Selvie, who is too light to be effective in the Pats' system. T-Th-S I'd prefer Hughes. If we took Morgan than I'd probably go with Spikes, who could play 3-4 SILB and 4-3 SAM.
58. One of 2 players:
- Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho. A 6'6" 330# behemoth who would give us the best pair of interior lineman in the NFL if we could resign Mankins. A bigger, stronger Mankins. Could be a legitimate 1st round pick come April. (Not listed in the first 3 rounds of this mock).
- Corey Wooten, DE, Northwestern. 6'7", 280#. Incredibly talented DE who would have been a 1st round pick last year before getting injured in his bowl game. Has been slow to come back from injury this year, and hasn't regained his junior form, but could be a great 3-4/4-3 DE.

The "best case scenario" out of those options is probably:

27. Derrick Morgan, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech.
41. Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida.
42. Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech.
58. Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho.

Dwyer running behind Mankins and Iupata would be something to see. Hope it happens.

Other favorite players:

8. Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa.
13. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland. One of my sleepers for a possible 1st round OT pick, he seems to be getting too much press. Will likely also be a workout warrior at the combine.
21. Jahvid Best, RB, Cal.
25. Eric Norwood, DE/OLB, South Carolina.
46. Jason Fox, OT, Miami.
49. Arthur Jones, DE/DT, Syracuse.
77. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan.
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If Miami gets Mount Cody, I will be crushed, followed shortly there after by Dan Koppen.

If Jamal Williams dominated Koppen last year, just think of what Cody will do to him next year. That would be scary.
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If Miami gets Mount Cody, I will be crushed, followed shortly there after by Dan Koppen.

If Jamal Williams dominated Koppen last year, just think of what Cody will do to him next year. That would be scary.
If Miami gets Mount Cody and we get Mike Iupati to go along with Logan Mankins, we'll be fine.
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Here's a new 3 rounder from Walter football:

WalterFootball.com: 2010 NFL Mock Draft

They have the Pats picking at 26, 42, 48 and 58, and have us taking:

26. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma St. Doubt he lasts this long, but I don't want us to go WR in 2010.
42. Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech. A home run as far as I'm concerned.
48. George Selvie, DE/OLB, South Florida. Not the DE/OLB I'd pick.
58. Mich Petrus, OG, Arkansas.
Not crazy about a WR in round 1, I prefer to trade a 2nd and 3rd rounder for something shiny and fast...

I like that draft, but it is early.

Cody gets a lot of love but isn't he a couple of cheeseburgers away from being a total washout? Koppen struggles with the Kris Jenkins, Jamar Williams, Casey Hamptons of the world, but who doesn't? I think overall the Pats record is pretty good against these teams a single player isn't going to shift the tide one way or the other.
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I can't believe Spikes would be there in the 2nd Round, but if he was I love to see him with the Pats.
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I can't believe Spikes would be there in the 2nd Round, but if he was I love to see him with the Pats.
He probably won't be there, but no one throught Maualuga and Laurinaitis would make it to the 2nd round either. ILBs tend to fall, and Spikes' stock seems to have slipped just a tad this season. It's too early to tell where he'll end up - he could go top 20, or late 1st round, or even early 2nd. I doubt at this point he'll be a top 11 pick like Aaron Curry, Jerod Mayo or Patrick Willis.
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Not crazy about a WR in round 1, I prefer to trade a 2nd and 3rd rounder for something shiny and fast...

I like that draft, but it is early.

Cody gets a lot of love but isn't he a couple of cheeseburgers away from being a total washout? Koppen struggles with the Kris Jenkins, Jamar Williams, Casey Hamptons of the world, but who doesn't? I think overall the Pats record is pretty good against these teams a single player isn't going to shift the tide one way or the other.
Hampton, Jenkins and Williams are all 30+ and injury prone. There aren't many other guys like them around. Ochmed is in love with Mount Cody, but I haven't seen enough to believe that he'll be the real deal.

I would go WR in the 1st round in 2010. Possibly in 2011, but not 2010.

A lot of guys who were considered top 20 picks at the beginning of the season have slipped a bit and could fall to our range. Jonathan Dwyer (RBs tend to fall), Brandon Spikes (ditto ILBs) and Sergio Kindle (talented but a better athlete than football player right now), for example. Some will go 1st round, but others will slip. With 4 day 1 picks (including probably between 25 and 48) we should be able to pick up some very solid contributors for reasonable money.
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48. George Selvie, DE/OLB, South Florida. Not the DE/OLB I'd pick.
Why not? He seems like the pass rushing DE/OLB hybrid that we need.
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Why not? He seems like the pass rushing DE/OLB hybrid that we need.
Too small for our system. At 6'4" 245# he's more Crable sized than Vrable sized. He's a nice player with a terrific motor who's done well in college, but I don't see him being strong enough to overpower NFL linemen or quick enough to be an Elvis Dumervil type of pass rusher (and Dumervil wouldn't really fit what BB looks for, good as he is). I'm not sure he's strong enough to hold the edge.

JMHO. I'd rather have Morgan, Kindle or Hughes. Others will disagree with me. Here's one profile that gushes about Selvie, for example:

George Selvie - Football's Future NFL Draft Profile

George Selvie DE/OLB 6’4 245 South Florida Jr.

Selvie had a phenomenal freshman season where he totaled 84 tackles, 15 for loss, and 5.5 sacks. That success was nothing compared to his monstrous sophomore campaign. He had 59 tackles, and a nation leader 31.5 for loss, and 14.5 sacks. He was a unanimous All America and Big East Defensive Player of the Year, setting school records with those numbers.

Strengths

Selvie is an absolute beast off the edge. His all around numbers are amazing. Not only does he put up the sack numbers, but he makes plays all over the field. He is a great athlete that truly knows how to get after the passer. He can beat blockers with his quick first step, a bull rush, or with his agility. What is so special about Selvie his is relentlessness on the field. You can find pass rushers with his blend of natural talent, which includes excellent quickness, athleticism, and very good closing speed. But you do not find many who never give up on a play and one who will chase running plays down the line of scrimmage and beyond. He is a pass rusher off the edge, but will also help in the run game. Selvie projects best as a 3-4 OLB but could play a 4-3 end spot with some added weight.

Weaknesses

Weight is the big issue with Selvie. He is a defensive end, but he simply is not big enough to play with his hand down consistently in the NFL. His body would wear down and it would limit his effectiveness. He may not have the body type to support any more weight, but that will not stop him from trying.

Future

Should Selvie declare, he will be one of the most attractive defensive players available. He is more than just a pass rusher, and will give his team a boost with his energy. At his current size he brings more value to 3-4 teams, but any of those teams picking in the top half of the first round will take a long look at George Selvie.
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I hear you about what BB normally looks for in our OLB's and the like, but Selvie is scary good. BB took Crable seemingly based on his intangibles and ability, his lack of proto-typical OLB physique didn't seem to matter that much - I think if Selvie continues his dominant career, and is available, BB would look long and hard, especially with the main 4-3 look we're going with at the minute.
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