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Old 04-19-2009, 10:44 PM   #1
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Here's yet antother attempt at a mock, incorporating recent development and throwing out a few trade ideas.

Pre-draft trades:

- Cleveland trades Braylon Edwards to the NY Giants for #29
- Arizona trades Anquan Boldin to Batlimore for #26 (with possibly a 4th rounder thrown in as well)
- Cincinnati trades Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson to St. Louis for #35


Round I:

1. Detroit: Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia.

This seems like a lock right now barring an unforeseen contract glitch. I expect Stafford to be signed before the draft.

2. St. Louis: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor.

The Rams go OT over Crabtree, Sanchez and Curry, and pick Smith over Monroe based on upside and injury issues.

** Trade: Kansas City trades #3 to Washington for #13, #80 and a 2010 1st round pick. KC moves back to save money. Dan Snyder goes for the home run again.

3. Washington: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC.

The Skins are reportedly in love with Sanchez. Snyder is not one to miss out when he wants something.

4. Seattle: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia.

With Sanchez off the board Matt Hasselbeck grins as the Seahawks take Walter Jones' replacement at LT.

5. Cleveland: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech.

Mangini and the Browns are reportedly in love with Crabtree; expect Braylon Edwards to be traded by draft day.

6. Cincinnati: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama.

The run on OT's continues.

7. Oakland: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri.

Al Davis passes on an OT or Raji in favor of speed at WR.

8. Jacksonville: Aaron Curry, LB.

Curry slips a bit because of a lack of pass rushing skills, and the Jags can't pass him up.

** Trade: Green Bay trades #9 to Kansas City for #13 and #80. Chiefs move back up a bit to get the guy Pioli covets.

9. Kansas City: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU.

The Chiefs are reportedly in love with Jackson and consider him another Richard Seymour to build their DL around.

10. San Francisco: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi.

SF reportedly loves Oher. Oher and Joe Staley make nice bookend OT's.

** Trade: Buffalo trades #11 to they NY Jets for #17 and #76.

11. NY Jets: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas St.

Jets get a younger Favre-like gunslinger at QB.

12. Denver: BJ Raji, DT.

McDaniels gets a DT to build his line around.

13. Green Bay: Brian Orapko, DE/OLB, Texas.

Pack trades back and still gets a giant 3-4 OLB to play opposite Aaron Kampmann.

14. New Orleans: Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio St.

Saints get a big back to play "thunder" to Reggie Bush's "lightnight".

15. Houston: Clay Matthews, LB, USC.

Houston debates between Matthews and Malcolm Jenkins. Matthews uncle as a coach wins out.

16. San Diego: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC.

Chargers get an aggressive ILB to play next to Shawn Merriman.

17. Buffalo: Everette Brown, DE, Florida St.

Buffalo moves back and still gets a pass rushing DE.

[/B]** Trade:[/B] Denver trades #18 to New England for #23 and #89. Belichick and McDaniels do a deal.

18. New England: Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S. Pats move up to get the best DB in the draft.

19. Tampa Bay: Peria Jerry, DT.

With Freeman gone, the Bucs go for the best available DT.

20. Detroit: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut.

With the top 4 OT's gone by #10, Detroit reaches for the talented Beatty to play LT opposite Gosder Cherilous.

21. Philadelphia: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia.

Philly gets a versatile and talented RB to share the workoad with Bryant Westbrook, behind their new OL.

22. Minnesota: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland.

Vikes have no QB, but get a talented deep threat anyway.

23. Denver: Brian Cushing, LB, USC.

Broncos trade back and gets the versatile Cushing who can play inside or out.

24. Atlanta: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St.

With Peria Jerry gone, Atlanta gets a talented TE target for Matt Ryan.

25. Miami: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut.

Parcells gets an athletic, versatile CB. Hakeem Nicks is also an option here.

26. Arizona: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut.

With Wells and Moreno gone, the Cardinals get the last 1st round caliber RB to replace the Edge.

27. Indianapolis: Evander "Ziggy Hood", DT, Missouri.

28. Buffalo: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona. Bills lost Jason Peters, so they get a versatile OT who can play on either side for depth and insurance.

29. Cleveland: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois.

Mangini gets a big, talented CB to play in his system.

30. Tennessee: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee.

With the top CBs gone, the Titans go for a versatile DL.

31. Arizona: Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn St.

Cardinals are elated to find Maybin still on the board, to move to OLB opposite Dansby.

32. Pirrsburgh: Eric Wood, OG/C,Louisville.

Tough choice between Mack and Eric Wood.


Round 2:

33. Detroit: James Laurinaitis, ILB. Lions

Laurinaitis will complement Julian Peterson and Ernie Sims nicely.

34. New England: Connor Barwin, OLB, Cincinnati.

Pats go for an athletic OLB conversion prospect with huge upside.

35. Cincinnati: Alex Mack, OG/C, California.

Cincinnati gets perhaps the top OG/C prospect in the draft, and is elated.

36. Cleveland: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan. With Sean Jones gone, Cleveland continues to rebuild their secondary.
37. Seattle: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio St.

Hasselbeck is smiling again. He gets a smooth, big, pro-ready target.

38. Cincinnati: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers.

Bengals get a talented WR to replace Johnson.

39. Jacksonville: Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina.

Jags get a versatile OT to fill their biggest hole.

40. Oakland: Michael Johnson, DE.

Al Davis goes ape at the prospect of Johnson's size and upside.


41. Green Bay: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College.

Pack gets a massive 3-4 NT to man the middle.

42. Buffaio: Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina.

Bills fill a glaring need with the most athletic TE in the draft.

43. San Francisco: Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois.

Wanted Brace, but settle for a talented pass rusher.

44. Miami: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina St. Miami considered Nicks at 25, and is elated when he slips to 44.

45. NY Giants: William Moore, S, Missouri.

The Giants gamble on the athletic Moore, pairing him with Kenny Phillips.

46. Houston: Patrick Chung, S.

Houston goes for the reliable option at safety in Chung.

47. New England: Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose St.

After trading up for the reliable Jenkins, Pats gamble again on a raw defensive prospect with huge upside.

48. Denver: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest.

Denver gets a ballhawking CB to play opposite Champ Bailey. A steal at #48.

49. Chicago: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest.

With the DEs and WRs gone, Chicago upgrades its secondary, and considers Moore a steal at #49.

50. Cleveland: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia.

Browns are thrilled to find Sintim still available at 50.

** Trade: New England trades #58 and #124 to Dallas for #51. With the safeties gone, Dallas moves back a few spots.

51. New England: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida.

Harvin falls due to drug and character concerns, and the Pats move up to get a versatile all-purpose weapon ahead of the Jets.

52. NY Jets: Shonn Green, RB, Iowa.

They wanted Harvin, but settle for a thumper RB to complement Leon Washington and eventually replace Thomas Jones.

53. Philadelphia: Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah.

Philly gambles on the talented Smith as a FS to replace Brian Dawkins.

54. Minnesota: Philip Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma.

Minny gets a massive RT to fill their biggest hole.

** Trade: Atlanta trades #55 to Arizona for #63, #131 and future considerations.

55. Arizona: Max Unger, C.

Cardinals trade up to get the last remaining top center.

56. Miami: James Casey, TE, Rice.

Phins get a versatile TE/H-back who can play the wildcat.

57. Baltimore: Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St.

Baltimore goes for a talented big CB who dropped a bit due to speed concerns.

58. Dallas: Duke Robinson, OG, Virginia.

Massive road grader will fit right in to Dallas' huge OL.

59. Carolina: Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn.

Quick, penetrating DT, fits the mold.

60. NY Giants: Lawrence Sidbury, DE/OLB, Richmond.

Giants gamble on a pass-rushing physical freak.

61. Indianapolis: Joaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma.

Big, smooth guy with nice hands but without elite speed.

62. Tennessee: Mike Wallace, WR, Mississippi.
Tennessee loves to pull shockers. Reaching for the athletic Wallace in the 2nd round would be another one.

63. Atlanta: Marcus Freeman, LB, Ohio St.

With Keith Brooking gone Atlanta needs an LB.

64. Pittsburgh: Fili Moala, DE, USC.

Steelers gamble on an athletic DT who can play 3-4 DE. Cousin of Haloti Ngata.

Other Pats picks:

97. Jason Williams, LB. Versatile, atlhetlic LB with incredible measurables. Plan to move him inside to SILB as a "poor man's Brandon Spikes".
170. Philip Trautwein, OT, Florida. Athletic OT with a quick first step who could be a real find this late.
199. Brandon Walker, OG, Oklahoma. 6'3" 305# sleeper who was OU's best run blocker last year.
207. Brian Hoyer, QB, Michigan St. Worth a shot on this developmental QB this late.
234. Vaughn Martin, DT, Western Ontario. 330# guy who can run the 40 in 5.02. Raw, but worth a shot this late.
UDFA: Thomas Morstead, P, SMU.
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:06 PM   #2
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Great mock.

You have Alphonso Smith there twice.

The only thing I disagreed with was the Bills trading out. IMO, having BJ Raji in your D-line next to Stroud will cause much much more of a problem for opposing teams than Ev Brown. Those two guy will collapse the pocket and they'll stop the run. Collapsing the pocket might be just what the Bills need on defense.
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Percy Harvin? Holy shi........

I would not be happy. Another wasted 2nd round pick
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Percy Harvin? Holy shi........

I would not be happy. Another wasted 2nd round pick
Dont care. Harvin at 51 is excellent value.. Pat White is another player i would look at in this area.

I like Barwin and all but but i would actually trade away 34 and a 4th to get back in round 1 to take Robert Ayers. I actually think he would be more versatile than Barwin would in this D. I Like the Gilbert pick as well. With all of these picks, OL would be high priority on day 2
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Really good work, and I enjoyed that you made a comment for each pick.

[QUOTE=mayoclinic;1351602]Here's yet antother attempt at a mock, incorporating recent development and throwing out a few trade ideas.

Pre-draft trades:

- Cleveland trades Braylon Edwards to the NY Giants for #29
- Arizona trades Anquan Boldin to Batlimore for #26 (with possibly a 4th rounder thrown in as well)
- Cincinnati trades Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson to St. Louis for #35
I hope the Giants don't get Edwards, that would be huge for them. I don't see the Ocho Cinco trade at all. St Louis just hired a new head coach with a defensive background (who just dealt with Plaxico) and they are looking to rebuild a bad team.

Round I:

1. Detroit: Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia.

This seems like a lock right now barring an unforeseen contract glitch. I expect Stafford to be signed before the draft.

2. St. Louis: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor.

The Rams go OT over Crabtree, Sanchez and Curry, and pick Smith over Monroe based on upside and injury issues.

** Trade: Kansas City trades #3 to Washington for #13, #80 and a 2010 1st round pick. KC moves back to save money. Dan Snyder goes for the home run again.
This would be awful trade for Washington as they never have enough draft picks, but I could see Snyder making it happen.
3. Washington: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC.

The Skins are reportedly in love with Sanchez. Snyder is not one to miss out when he wants something.

4. Seattle: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia.

With Sanchez off the board Matt Hasselbeck grins as the Seahawks take Walter Jones' replacement at LT.

5. Cleveland: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech.

Mangini and the Browns are reportedly in love with Crabtree; expect Braylon Edwards to be traded by draft day.


6. Cincinnati: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama.

The run on OT's continues.

7. Oakland: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri.

Al Davis passes on an OT or Raji in favor of speed at WR.

8. Jacksonville: Aaron Curry, LB.

Curry slips a bit because of a lack of pass rushing skills, and the Jags can't pass him up.

I could see Jacksonville taking Raji here if the background checks out.
** Trade: Green Bay trades #9 to Kansas City for #13 and #80. Chiefs move back up a bit to get the guy Pioli covets.

9. Kansas City: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU.

The Chiefs are reportedly in love with Jackson and consider him another Richard Seymour to build their DL around.

Have to wonder if the Patriots also love Jackson...
10. San Francisco: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi.

SF reportedly loves Oher. Oher and Joe Staley make nice bookend OT's.

** Trade: Buffalo trades #11 to they NY Jets for #17 and #76.

11. NY Jets: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas St.
I could see it happening, but nobody between 11 and 17 is a threat to take Freeman...must be a bidding war with Tampa?
Jets get a younger Favre-like gunslinger at QB.

12. Denver: BJ Raji, DT.

McDaniels gets a DT to build his line around.

13. Green Bay: Brian Orapko, DE/OLB, Texas.

Pack trades back and still gets a giant 3-4 OLB to play opposite Aaron Kampmann.This would be a strange set of OLB's with neither seeming to have any coverage skills, but the pick still makes sense at 13.

14. New Orleans: Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio St.

Saints get a big back to play "thunder" to Reggie Bush's "lightnight".

15. Houston: Clay Matthews, LB, USC.

Houston debates between Matthews and Malcolm Jenkins. Matthews uncle as a coach wins out.

I see Cushing here going by the "he was invited to the draft so somebody must want him fairly early theory"
16. San Diego: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC.

Chargers get an aggressive ILB to play next to Shawn Merriman.

17. Buffalo: Everette Brown, DE, Florida St.

Buffalo moves back and still gets a pass rushing DE.

[/B]** Trade:[/B] Denver trades #18 to New England for #23 and #89. Belichick and McDaniels do a deal.

18. New England: Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S. Pats move up to get the best DB in the draft.
Don't love it, but wouldn't be upset either. I think Tampa takes Jenkins at 19, if he doesn't go 18.

19. Tampa Bay: Peria Jerry, DT.

With Freeman gone, the Bucs go for the best available DT.

20. Detroit: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut.

With the top 4 OT's gone by #10, Detroit reaches for the talented Beatty to play LT opposite Gosder Cherilous.

21. Philadelphia: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia.

Philly gets a versatile and talented RB to share the workoad with Bryant Westbrook, behind their new OL.

22. Minnesota: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland.

Vikes have no QB, but get a talented deep threat anyway.
I think a better fit for Minnesota would be Nicks considering Berrian is a vertical guy, but Heyward-Bey is better value if he's on the board. I think Minnesota would be very tempted by Britton here to play RT.

23. Denver: Brian Cushing, LB, USC.

Broncos trade back and gets the versatile Cushing who can play inside or out.

24. Atlanta: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St.

With Peria Jerry gone, Atlanta gets a talented TE target for Matt Ryan.

25. Miami: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut.

Parcells gets an athletic, versatile CB. Hakeem Nicks is also an option here.

26. Arizona: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut.

With Wells and Moreno gone, the Cardinals get the last 1st round caliber RB to replace the Edge.

27. Indianapolis: Evander "Ziggy Hood", DT, Missouri.

28. Buffalo: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona. Bills lost Jason Peters, so they get a versatile OT who can play on either side for depth and insurance.

29. Cleveland: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois.

Mangini gets a big, talented CB to play in his system.

30. Tennessee: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee.

With the top CBs gone, the Titans go for a versatile DL.
Seems like a perfect pick for the Titans, but I see Ayers going higher, perhaps to Denver.

31. Arizona: Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn St.

Cardinals are elated to find Maybin still on the board, to move to OLB opposite Dansby.

32. Pirrsburgh: Eric Wood, OG/C,Louisville.

Tough choice between Mack and Eric Wood.
I think you made the right choice as Wood is considered better against big Nose Tackles.
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Round 2:

33. Detroit: James Laurinaitis, ILB. Lions

Laurinaitis will complement Julian Peterson and Ernie Sims nicely.
Great draft for Detroit filling there 3 biggest needs

34. New England: Connor Barwin, OLB, Cincinnati.

Pats go for an athletic OLB conversion prospect with huge upside.
Shocker, I think I know your Patriots drafts by heart

35. Cincinnati: Alex Mack, OG/C, California.

Cincinnati gets perhaps the top OG/C prospect in the draft, and is elated.

36. Cleveland: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan. With Sean Jones gone, Cleveland continues to rebuild their secondary.
Great pick for Cleveland, but would a BB disciple go WR/CB/S with 3 of the top 36 picks? seems like a lineman would be in the mix somewhere.
37. Seattle: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio St.

Hasselbeck is smiling again. He gets a smooth, big, pro-ready target.

I see a pass rusher here, maybe Larry English. Seahawks have Houshmazadeh, Branch, and Burleson at WR.

38. Cincinnati: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers.

Bengals get a talented WR to replace Johnson.


39. Jacksonville: Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina.

Jags get a versatile OT to fill their biggest hole.

40. Oakland: Michael Johnson, DE.

Al Davis goes ape at the prospect of Johnson's size and upside.
This seems to be written in stone, doesn't it?

41. Green Bay: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College.

Pack gets a massive 3-4 NT to man the middle.

42. Buffaio: Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina.

Bills fill a glaring need with the most athletic TE in the draft.
Like Detroit, Buffalo fills top 3 needs.

43. San Francisco: Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois.

Wanted Brace, but settle for a talented pass rusher.

44. Miami: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina St. Miami considered Nicks at 25, and is elated when he slips to 44.

45. NY Giants: William Moore, S, Missouri.

The Giants gamble on the athletic Moore, pairing him with Kenny Phillips.

46. Houston: Patrick Chung, S.

Houston goes for the reliable option at safety in Chung.
47. New England: Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose St.

After trading up for the reliable Jenkins, Pats gamble again on a raw defensive prospect with huge upside.
Ok, now we are looking for Canfield or Lang with the 3rd round comp pick...j/k
48. Denver: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest.

Denver gets a ballhawking CB to play opposite Champ Bailey. A steal at #48.

49. Chicago: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest.

Typo, meant DJ Moore here, I think he goes 3rd round or possibly later due to lack of size speed, but he's somewhat similar to Nathan Vasher and fits the Bears scheme.
With the DEs and WRs gone, Chicago upgrades its secondary, and considers Moore a steal at #49.

50. Cleveland: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia.

Browns are thrilled to find Sintim still available at 50.

** Trade: New England trades #58 and #124 to Dallas for #51. With the safeties gone, Dallas moves back a few spots.

51. New England: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida.

Harvin falls due to drug and character concerns, and the Pats move up to get a versatile all-purpose weapon ahead of the Jets.

I have a hard time seeing Dallas passing on Harvin for themselves, but this is the type of move I think we will see from New England specifically targeting a guy who's slipping in round 2
52. NY Jets: Shonn Green, RB, Iowa.

They wanted Harvin, but settle for a thumper RB to complement Leon Washington and eventually replace Thomas Jones.
I see Andre Brown going earlier than Greene

53. Philadelphia: Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah.

Philly gambles on the talented Smith as a FS to replace Brian Dawkins.

54. Minnesota: Philip Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma.

Minny gets a massive RT to fill their biggest hole.
Loadholt seems to be rising, but this would be an ideal draft for Minnesota getting great value at WR and RT in the first two rounds.

** Trade: Atlanta trades #55 to Arizona for #63, #131 and future considerations.

55. Arizona: Max Unger, C.

Cardinals trade up to get the last remaining top center.

56. Miami: James Casey, TE, Rice.

Phins get a versatile TE/H-back who can play the wildcat.Not sure I see Parcells taking a TE who's been roundly criticized for his blocking.

57. Baltimore: Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St.

Baltimore goes for a talented big CB who dropped a bit due to speed concerns.

58. Dallas: Duke Robinson, OG, Virginia.

Massive road grader will fit right in to Dallas' huge OL.

59. Carolina: Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn.

Quick, penetrating DT, fits the mold.

60. NY Giants: Lawrence Sidbury, DE/OLB, Richmond.

Giants gamble on a pass-rushing physical freak.

61. Indianapolis: Joaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma.

Big, smooth guy with nice hands but without elite speed.

62. Tennessee: Mike Wallace, WR, Mississippi.
Tennessee loves to pull shockers. Reaching for the athletic Wallace in the 2nd round would be another one.

63. Atlanta: Marcus Freeman, LB, Ohio St.

With Keith Brooking gone Atlanta needs an LB.

64. Pittsburgh: Fili Moala, DE, USC.

Steelers gamble on an athletic DT who can play 3-4 DE. Cousin of Haloti Ngata.

58-64 are all great mock picks in my opinion as they fit need, scheme and the draft tendencies of the above teams.

Other Pats picks:

97. Jason Williams, LB. Versatile, atlhetlic LB with incredible measurables. Plan to move him inside to SILB as a "poor man's Brandon Spikes".
170. Philip Trautwein, OT, Florida. Athletic OT with a quick first step who could be a real find this late.
199. Brandon Walker, OG, Oklahoma. 6'3" 305# sleeper who was OU's best run blocker last year.
207. Brian Hoyer, QB, Michigan St. Worth a shot on this developmental QB this late.
234. Vaughn Martin, DT, Western Ontario. 330# guy who can run the 40 in 5.02. Raw, but worth a shot this late.
UDFA: Thomas Morstead, P, SMU.[/QUOTE]

I'd be satisfied with the Patriots draft, but there seems to be too much risk for a BB draft. We like a lot of the same players, but I am not sure I see BB taking Barwin, Gilbert, and Harvin early. I think there will be a "safer" pick in there somewhere if they make 3 sceond rounders.

Were your OL picks influenced by the NFP article on DL/OL risers? Both Trautwein and Walker were mentioned there.
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JENKINS
Are you drafting Jenkins to play safety. If so, he likely isn't worth a 1st and a 3rd. I do like the trade and the pick, if he is expected to compete at corner.

BARWIN
Belichick gets his TE. Thomas will have competition. In your mock, I would get my strong safety NOW and my project LB at 58 in Sidbury.

GILBERT
A solid pick.

HARVIN
A throw something at the TV pick. Loadholt and Unger and Sean Smith are all much better picks, since you have given up on any later help on the OL, except for the potential Practice Squaders who we keep drafting to play on other teams. I do agree with moving up, since there is a lot of talent available which will soon be gone.

BOTTOM LINE
I would have preferred Jenkins, Moore, Gilbert, Unger, and Williams as my top 5 picks. All would be potential 2010 starters.
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The more and more I research Malcolm Jenkins the more I think Belichick can mold him into a superstar. A lot of folks are down on him because of his 40 times but I really don't think they are going to be an issue on our team.

Ty Law 1995 5-11 200--40 yard dash 4.63
Asante Samuel 5-11 185-- 40 yard dash 4.49
Malcolm Jenkins 6ft 204--40 yard dash 4.54

If you look at his film you can see he plays man to man quite a bit and some bump and run. If you break down his combine he has the best 3 cone of all cbs. A pretty insane 6.59 with a nice 4.07 20 yard shuttle. I'm going to assume he has very good hips and change of direction skills that will make up for his lack of speed via Law and Samuel.
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Dont care. Harvin at 51 is excellent value.. Pat White is another player i would look at in this area.

I like Barwin and all but but i would actually trade away 34 and a 4th to get back in round 1 to take Robert Ayers. I actually think he would be more versatile than Barwin would in this D. I Like the Gilbert pick as well. With all of these picks, OL would be high priority on day 2
Come on. Is wasting a high pick on a player you know is goin to be trouble worth the "value"?

I would be so pissed with Harvin on this team.
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The more and more I research Malcolm Jenkins the more I think Belichick can mold him into a superstar. A lot of folks are down on him because of his 40 times but I really don't think they are going to be an issue on our team.

Ty Law 1995 5-11 200--40 yard dash 4.63
Asante Samuel 5-11 185-- 40 yard dash 4.49
Malcolm Jenkins 6ft 204--40 yard dash 4.54

If you look at his film you can see he plays man to man quite a bit and some bump and run. If you break down his combine he has the best 3 cone of all cbs. A pretty insane 6.59 with a nice 4.07 20 yard shuttle. I'm going to assume he has very good hips and change of direction skills that will make up for his lack of speed via Law and Samuel.
If Jenkins is there at 23 (which im positive he wont be) and we dont take him? Thats a blunder in itself the guy is a playmaker who fell about 10 spots because he was .05 seconds slower than most anticipated him as.

Either safety or corner the guy will fit the bill where he goes.
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