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Old 04-05-2009, 10:35 AM   #11
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Frantz Joseph vs Jasper Brinkley

Anyone have any opinions on who would be a better fit for the Pats?
Just say "no," but if you had to take one, Brinkley is more athletic, Joseph is more decisive and instinctive.
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:02 PM   #12
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Thanks for linking to our video of Joseph - It's hard to not root for the guy. The footage is from the Texas VS the Nation all star game practices.
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:43 PM   #13
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Yeah, I really like this kid, too. Plus he sounds level-headed and mature.

The only thing I wonder about is his size. Something tells me the guy they want playing next to Mayo inside would ideally be bigger. Joseph looks good taking on guards in those videos, but he needs to do that over and over in the NFL and I wonder if they might think he's too small for that. I imagine the Pats passed on David Harris for the same reason.

But I like him. Between him and Brinkley, that's a tough call. Brinkley is more the physical ideal, but it looks like Joseph is more well-rounded. I'd be happy with either of them, but somehow Joseph seems like the safer pick. Brinkley might have more upside, however. Gun to the head, I'll go with Joseph.
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I like them both, but i like Joseph a lot more because he comes without the injury risk and questionable instincts that Brinkley does (Brinkley's upside is tempting though). I know this is a stretch and a little hyperbole, but Joseph looks a lot like Patrick Willis did at Ole Miss to me, both in his college highlights and the DraftGuysTV video. I'd pick him gladly at 58, but I think he'll be there at 89 and 97 anyway. He'd be taking a lot of Bruschi's 1st and
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I don't think Joseph goes before the fourth round. At the highest, you'd probably take him with that second third-rounder.
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Frantz Joseph, he is ranked 173 overall and is projected to go in the late 5th early 6th. Better value and seems to have the mentality to understand the 3-4 defense. Hes a Beast!!
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Joseph has Kevin Smith syndrome: "Because he plays in an inferior conference he must not be as good as he looks". Kevin Smith was the best back in college football in 2007 and yet he goes in the 3rd round to the Lions.

I'm not saying Joseph is the best LB in college football, but he surely has better than late round talent. I remember seeing some early draft projections and they had him as a 6th or 7th round pick, I was shocked. I thought he would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick and I still think his talent warrants that. Only time will tell but this kid is awesome and should be one hell of an NFL LB.
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Not worthy of consideration until at least our 4th-rounder, and even that would depend on who else has fallen to us.
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Joseph has Kevin Smith syndrome: "Because he plays in an inferior conference he must not be as good as he looks". Kevin Smith was the best back in college football in 2007 and yet he goes in the 3rd round to the Lions.

I'm not saying Joseph is the best LB in college football, but he surely has better than late round talent.
I hear you, but I think the real killer is his lack of measurables. A small-conference player can get past the stigma if he backs up his production with NFL-caliber athletic numbers. But Joseph's pro day showing did nothing whatsoever to inspire confidence:

6010 242 4.83/2.75/1.62 19 27 1/2" 09'08" 4.37 7.34

A good BCS-conference comparison might be Scott McKillop: super smart, super productive, the heart and soul of his defense, but undersized and not an elite athlete. Like Joseph, he's expected to go in rounds 4-6.
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I like them both, but i like Joseph a lot more because he comes without the injury risk and questionable instincts that Brinkley does (Brinkley's upside is tempting though). I know this is a stretch and a little hyperbole, but Joseph looks a lot like Patrick Willis did at Ole Miss to me, both in his college highlights and the DraftGuysTV video. I'd pick him gladly at 58, but I think he'll be there at 89 and 97 anyway. He'd be taking a lot of Bruschi's 1st and
2nd down reps by week 6.
LOL. He's not even close to Patrick Willis. Come on. He doesn't have the athleticism and sideline to sideline range that Willis does. He did display some nice ability to shed blocks in that clip though. When I look at Joseph I'd say his upside would be a Ted Johnson type, a 2 down run stuffer. But he might be good enough at that role to be worth a look somewhere on the 2nd day.
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