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***mgteich*** · 04-02-2009, 02:38 PM

Sure, if we could get Wilson for Maroney and Thomas, go for it. Arizona has little reason to trade Wilson or to try to secure our #3 RB and #3 TE. It is not clear that Thomas would be an upgrade to Spach who played well for the Cards.

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Originally Posted by DW Toys

Can I throw this out there cousins? Just a thought. We have many draft choices and we have some moving parts that are sitting like David Thomas and even Maroney(don't hate on that one but he is probably third on the depth chart. Hear me out). 231 lb SS Adrian Wilson of the Cards is only 29 years old. He is experienced, a ferocious hitter and team leader which is a BB plus. He rand a 4.48 and has a 39" vertical. Aaron Francisco of the Cards has been said could start on many NFL teams and is only 25. The Cards need a RB badly and a TE (Spach was their starter!).
How does this sound: Maroney and Thomas (maybe Sanders) for Wilson and if you send Sanders, a third or forth back? Francisco could still take Wilson's spot. This solves both teams needs.

DW Toys

rookBoston · 04-02-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by captain stone

Why no OLBs, Rook?

Gladly. Sintim would be my choice.

Actually, I'm not convinced that OLB is our one glaring need. I think we're in more trouble at ILB, because I dont think Bruschi has much left, and I dont trust (yet) that Guyton is a real solution. For the rest, there's plenty of need on the roster and I just chose best value. Mack, Moore and Coffman are all players that I've seen on film making impact plays... doing things that few people can do. Making plays in game situation. So, it's as much that I like these guys in particular, and they're at positions where we could use them.

Among the early OLBs,
- Cushing is off my board... I actually buy the 'roid rumors. If he's not using them now, he did.
- Matthews... maybe.
- Barwin... not at 23 and I'd rather have Moore at 34. But I would take him there if it came to it. Frankly, I'm more interested in drafting him as a TE than as an OLB.
- English... maybe. Need to watch more film to build a stronger opinion.

DW Toys · 04-02-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mayoclinic

I don't see Arizona trading Wilson. I would be quite happy with getting Wilson and trying to get Donald Brown or Knowshon Moreno. I just don't see it happening. But go ahead and prove me wrong.

Whats their phone # in AZ?
DW Toys

VJCPatriot · 04-03-2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DW Toys

Can I throw this out there cousins? Just a thought. We have many draft choices and we have some moving parts that are sitting like David Thomas and even Maroney(don't hate on that one but he is probably third on the depth chart. Hear me out). 231 lb SS Adrian Wilson of the Cards is only 29 years old. He is experienced, a ferocious hitter and team leader which is a BB plus. He rand a 4.48 and has a 39" vertical. Aaron Francisco of the Cards has been said could start on many NFL teams and is only 25. The Cards need a RB badly and a TE (Spach was their starter!).
How does this sound: Maroney and Thomas (maybe Sanders) for Wilson and if you send Sanders, a third or forth back? Francisco could still take Wilson's spot. This solves both teams needs.

DW Toys

BB would like to get Ed Reed too but that ain't gonna happen. Come on now. Why would the Cards send a valuable starting safety from their superbowl team for a bunch of spare parts and a mid round pick?

captain stone · 04-03-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dryheat44

Well, then you have to commit to taking a FS earlier, at the expense of your OLB or SS. A guy like Sherrod Martin will give you everything you get with Smith, and looks to be around later.

I agree. I also like Rashad Johnson & esp. Sean Smith, but I don't want to use any of my top-100 picks on a pure FS. Well, maybe Smith - if the FO is convinced that he can cover big WRs, esp. in the RZ.

As long as all my targets have been hit with my first 6 picks, then I will be willing to target a FS in the 4th round & beyond.

***mayoclinic*** · 04-03-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dw toys

whats their phone # in az?
Dw toys

1-800-ripoff. :d

captain stone · 04-03-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rookBoston

Gladly. Sintim would be my choice.

Actually, I'm not convinced that OLB is our one glaring need.
Well, we cert. have the quantity at OLB: Adalius, TBC, Crable, Woods, Redd, Craig (& poss. Jason Taylor?). The big, big question is: does the FO think that we have the quality?

I think we're in more trouble at ILB, because I dont think Bruschi has much left,
I don't think he does, either. But if Bill is comfortable w/ the rest of the current OLBs, then Adalius can return to SILB.

and I dont trust (yet) that Guyton is a real solution.
Not at SILB, anyway. He's more of a WILB & STer.

For the rest, there's plenty of need on the roster and I just chose best value. Mack, Moore and Coffman are all players that I've seen on film making impact plays... doing things that few people can do. Making plays in game situation. So, it's as much that I like these guys in particular, and they're at positions where we could use them.

Among the early OLBs,
- Cushing is off my board... I actually buy the 'roid rumors. If he's not using them now, he did.
- Matthews... maybe.
- Barwin... not at 23 and I'd rather have Moore at 34. But I would take him there if it came to it. Frankly, I'm more interested in drafting him as a TE than as an OLB.
- English... maybe. Need to watch more film to build a stronger opinion.

I smell what you're cooking re: the possibility of not drafting an OLB on the first day. Should that indeed happen, then we should expect Shawn Crable to have a much bigger role than the role he had last year, which was: none at all.

rookBoston · 04-03-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rookBoston

- Cushing is off my board... I actually buy the 'roid rumors. If he's not using them now, he did.

Just for the record, I posted this opinion *before* news of the drug test at the combine leaked and everyone piled on. I was expecting a lot of outrage and accusations of rumor mongering. Instead, it just looks like riding the bandwagon.