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Old 03-27-2009, 08:41 PM   #11
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I understand that safety is a need position for the Patriots and Delmas is believed to be the best safety in the draft. How does his play compare against current NFL players at the same position?

I watched Western Michigan vs Rice in the bowl game and I was more impressed with the guy Delmas went against (James Casey). I don't know anything about scouting players so I am just trying to understand the hype.
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:13 PM   #12
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I understand that safety is a need position for the Patriots and Delmas is believed to be the best safety in the draft. How does his play compare against current NFL players at the same position?

I watched Western Michigan vs Rice in the bowl game and I was more impressed with the guy Delmas went against (James Casey). I don't know anything about scouting players so I am just trying to understand the hype.
I can't exactly claim to be an expert, but what I've seen of Delmas he brings a lot of physicality to the game, a bit like Bob Sanders and Troy Polamalu. It's a stretch to compare any college player to those guys, but stylistically he has the same kind of approach. He was ticked off at the Senior Bowl because they weren't allow to tackle in practice. He likes to hit people. He has good coverage ability and nice hands, but his mentality seems more SS than FS to me.

One of the raps on Delmas is that he sometimes takes the wrong angle and overcommits. This is probably coachable. There were a few plays in the bowl game where Casey embarassed him. But Casey is a pretty impressive prospect in his own right - I had Delmas at #47 and Casey at #58 for us in my last mock.
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Two good players too look at. I think that both could help most clubs. It appears Pat's are trying to ensure that if they do pick a db at 34, they have looked closely at all value players. Several similar types as far as grades.Belichick puts emphasis on fluidity of hips.Being able to adjust body to get into routes. Samuel was great in that area. Alphonso Smith appears to have the best control of all cb's. He is short. Delmas went from unknown to the top safety on most boards. That could be a sign that this position is weak, and he is interesting. Personally I don't see him as a Bob Sanders.Needs time to play with elite talent before I am convinced. I still like Will Moore. We really need a big kid that can stick -also Moore has rare hands for a ss. I really think the Missouri defensive schemes did not help him develop. A good nfl secondary coach can teach him what he needs to know. He is very gifted. Brian Dawkins?
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I can't exactly claim to be an expert, but what I've seen of Delmas he brings a lot of physicality to the game, a bit like Bob Sanders and Troy Polamalu. It's a stretch to compare any college player to those guys, but stylistically he has the same kind of approach. He was ticked off at the Senior Bowl because they weren't allow to tackle in practice. He likes to hit people. He has good coverage ability and nice hands, but his mentality seems more SS than FS to me.

One of the raps on Delmas is that he sometimes takes the wrong angle and overcommits. This is probably coachable. There were a few plays in the bowl game where Casey embarassed him. But Casey is a pretty impressive prospect in his own right - I had Delmas at #47 and Casey at #58 for us in my last mock.
Thank you for the detailed response.

The guy who looked very good against the run and decent against the pass at the Senior Bowl was Ellis Lankster. Unfortunately he is known to be a turd.
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Two good players too look at. I think that both could help most clubs. It appears Pat's are trying to ensure that if they do pick a db at 34, they have looked closely at all value players. Several similar types as far as grades.Belichick puts emphasis on fluidity of hips.Being able to adjust body to get into routes. Samuel was great in that area. Alphonso Smith appears to have the best control of all cb's. He is short. Delmas went from unknown to the top safety on most boards. That could be a sign that this position is weak, and he is interesting. Personally I don't see him as a Bob Sanders.Needs time to play with elite talent before I am convinced. I still like Will Moore. We really need a big kid that can stick -also Moore has rare hands for a ss. I really think the Missouri defensive schemes did not help him develop. A good nfl secondary coach can teach him what he needs to know. He is very gifted. Brian Dawkins?
I agree with you about Moore. I think we could turn him into one of the best Blitzing safties in the NFL. He reminds me alot of Adrian Wilson of the Cards. He plays great against the run and has good hands and ball skils.
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I agree with you about Moore. I think we could turn him into one of the best Blitzing safties in the NFL. He reminds me alot of Adrian Wilson of the Cards. He plays great against the run and has good hands and ball skils.
I think Adrian Wilson is a much better comparison for William Moore than is Brian Dawkins. Moore has terrific size. Im just not sure about his coverage ability.
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