midwestpatsfan

Do you take him? He has great talent, but he did not handle the combine well at all and will fall because of the question marks that are starting to mount with him. That being said, he has top 10 talent, so do you pull the trigger on a troubled talent like this?

DaBruinz

I'll be honest. I don't think he was a top 10 talent. First off, he had a very quick rise thanks to the draftniks. But he missed his Bowl game because of disciplinary reasons. And then he didn't look all that great at the Senior Bowl. Then his actions at the combine came across as immature excuses. I think the Pats pass on him. Particularly since Saban does carry some clout with BB.

Ochmed Jones

He was at the senior bowl?

bakes781

I actually don't think he falls quite as far as most are predicting. I think he could go as high as #8 to Jacksonville, but no lower than Chicago at #18.

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mayoclinic

He'll regroup and have a solid Pro Day, and people will chalk all this up to his youth and inexperience. In the end, he will go top 15, probably top 10. Can't see him getting past Washington at #13 as things stand right now. As you mention, Jacksonville at #8 is also a possibility.

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midwestpatsfan

no offense bakes and mayo, but you didn't answer my question. What if he falls to the pats? do you think they would take him IF he fell that far

mayoclinic

I personally don't think he fits the Pats system that well - he's more of a road grader than a ZBS kind of guy, and he's best in the run. However, I'm sure that Belichick will be getting a lot of info on him from Saban. If Saban trashes the kid for his lack of maturity and work ethic, then he's off our board altogether. If Saban raves about him, it may go a long way.

I didn't answer your question because it will all depend who else is available at #23. He may be better value than the players currently being discussed, but it's hard to speculate in a vacuum. If I had to guess right now, I would say he gets a serious look, but we pass.

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bakes781

Like mayo said I don't think he fits what they look for in an OT. Maybe if he could play guard?

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VJCPatriot

I don't think he's a fit and he has some character flags. I don't see the Pats spending a 1st round pick on an RT with attitude/maturity issues.

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AzPatsFan

Yes, they would treat him as the next coming of the falling Wilfork. Mayock quotes the proverb, " Those that won't, are no better than those that can't." I think that definitely applies to a Micheal Johnson. Avoid him like the plague.

Smith has never been criticized as lazy. He may well be immature, and he is an underclassman. The only criticism was his weight. So he attempted to do something about that.

He was benched by Saban, as he is required, for violating a stupid, and probably illegal NCAA rule, about not being able to contact or talk to an Agent. Can you not seek a lawyer's counsel at any time that you desire, or hire one? I believe there is an item in the Bill of Rights about that. (Actually, he could probably make millions in a Court test, but it would interfere with his football career.)

As regards his presence at the combine, that was handled poorly, I admit.

But he did say he was not going to participate, as he was not prepared for the combine events. He was certainly on a diet, and lost more than 18 pounds between the Senior bowl and the Combine, and made sure to be measured and document that fact. So he was doing something, and not just loafing. He informed every one on day one, at the combine, of that. And he would depend on his superb film grades, and his Pro day.

Not being available the next day is an easy mistake that more than likely devolves on his Agent, than him.

He won't be there at #23.