jsull87

I think the one trend that has recently thrown the value chart out a tad is the success of Newton, Luck, RG3, Wilson and to an extent Tanihill. These picks show what picking your QB can do for a floundering franchise.

Mallett turns out to be his guy and has success no one will be talking about what they gave up for him. Just like RG3 if he floundered everyone would say Shanehan has ruined a franchise, now that he didn't people are saying he's a genius and worth that price and more.

After that speech... i still can't see this happening.

EwanSellars

wouldnt it be awesome if we got the 6 for mallett then traded it to a team for their 2014 1st and 2013 2nd and 3rd then trade our 2013 1st to buffalo for a 2014 1st and a 2013 3rd. It makes sense when you think about. We might actually get the 6 and in all likely hood we will trade down by spreading out the years we make it easier on the team that traded with us. We then trade our first to Buffalo. They need Nassib and want to get in front of the other quarterback needy teams looking for a QB early in the 2nd a 2014 first and a 2013 3rd seem pretty faair for them getting ahead of other teams to get their franchise QB that would give us 3 2014 first rounds picks 2 2013 2nd round picks and 2 2013 3rd round picks. all and all i think this would be great and would actually be a reasonable set of trades. If you look at the talent in next years draft you understand why i want as many 2014 firsts as possible. Stephon Tuitt, Marquise Lee, Louis Nix, Austin Sefarian Jenkins and Deanthony Thomas just to name a few

dryheat44

I think in this scenario I'd rather take Milliner than trade the pick, unless we get a 1st next year. I don't know what Talib's future here is, but I think it's Arrington's time to move along regardless.

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EwanSellars

i think arrington is a great slot cornerback which can be valuable on the outside he is awful but in the slot hes great and i as well wouldnt mind Dee Miliner with the 6

borg

I actually can see this type of transaction for that price happening.

The price: To pry the Pats #2 QB (with 2 years left on rookie contract) away from NE with no other QB on the roster.....any team would have to offer a significant premium.

Time travel: The knock on Mallet was never his arm but more on who he was as a person. Selfish, stupid, immature, poor decision maker off the field. His make up forced teams to remove his name from many draft boards.

The Present: With two years under his belt, Mallet has seamlessly blended into the organization with no extracurricular blemishes. In fact, the Patriots faith in Mallet was clearly demonstrated by his promotion to #2 QB and the subsequent release of all other QB options. NE had seen enough to feel comfortable relying on Mallet.

The Climate: The NFL looks like a league divided. The new wave mobile QB that can rocket a needy team into contention verses the traditional pocket passer. With 4 teams standing, the count is 3 pocket passers vs 1 slasher. Which kind of QB do you think the old NFL guard favors? History has shown mobile QBs star shines the brightest but usually burns out quickly due to the many hits.

The Pocket Passer: I don't have a clue about college talent, but I do have an opinion on what works vs what doesn't work in the NFL. If a team desires a pocket passer, that QB must have vision over the LOS. I looked at Sanchez and saw a diminutive QB (compared to successful stay in the pocket NFL QBs) and expected a fail. Same with some of these mid tier NFL QBs with the low arm slot like Rivers and Romo.
And arm strength comes into play. The NFL has been littered with accurate but low arm strength QBs that can only take a QB so far. In other words....low ceiling.

Why Mallet now: He fits my physical criterion of a prototypical NFL pocket passer. He has passed the maturity test. The Patriots have validated Mallets NFL credentials through promotion. He has two years under his belt in one of the most complicated NFL systems.

Lombardi: Seems like a serious old school guy....and so I will make a few assumptions on his behalf. 1) He desires a tradition pocket passer, who if successful, has a longer shelf life than the new wave of runner/passer. 2) He sees value in NFL exposure vs college. 3) He sees a Browns team that strengthened itself via the Jones trade and can afford to "reach" at this time. 4) And he would view this hypothetical trade on two levels: (a) Mallet rookie contract is $$$ cost contained (averaging approx $700k in final 2 years) (b) Savings from not paying a #6 pick can deployed to shore up roster.

From Patriots perspective: Losing Mallet would be an enormous depth hit and force the team to seek alternatives and retrain....but......Hoyer is available which would provide the team with a QB comfortable with the system.....lessening the impact.

Side note: The lack of draft picks in recent drafts has to be killing BB. Such a trade would allow BB to resume his draft annuity strategy, an advantage I believe he enjoys.

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rabidfireweasel

I don't agree on your read of St. Louis at all. I think they are going to continue to build depth and a quality roster. last year it was trade back and trade back some more. They are in the same division as Seattle and San Francisco, so I think they are more more than a year or two away. I don't see a trade up at all for the Rams, given the players likely available.

patchick

Q: What's harder to imagine than the Browns trading the #6 overall pick straight up for Ryan Mallett?

A: The Patriots trading away the rocket-armed, 6'7" QB who they felt confident enough in to carry only 2 QBs all year, and who is under contract dirt-cheap for 2 more years, for a 4th-round pick.

Why would the Patriots even pause to consider an offer for less than a 2nd? Regardless of his value to the rest of the league, he has value here.

Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

Regardless if any of this is realistic or not, if I'm going to get a king's ransom for Mallett it starts with a first rounder next year and conditional picks incase the team solid. To be frank, this year sucks at the top of the draft. There are lots of players taken 6th or later in the last two drafts that I'd take over anyone in this draft. Next year is much better.

If I can't get that then I play the beast next year and trade him next offseason. There's no rush to make a deal.

borg

As I posted earlier, teams would have to pry Mallet away from NE with a substantial offer....an offer they could not refuse. For those that believe NE would give up Mallet for a mid rounder....does NE strike anyone as falling into the desperate to make a move category?
Such a transaction for Mallet is so much different than what the environment was during the Cassell negotiations. Putting aside skill comparisons between Mallet and Cassel, Cassel was leaving, NE had no choice but to get what the market dictated. Not the case for Mallet

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dryheat44

Seriously? I hope that wasn't his mindset with Rohan Davey -- he may have turned down a 3rd round pick while holding out for a second or first. Mallett's value to BB is strictly as a backup -- unless Brady retires this year or next, it's hard to see Mallett getting another contract here. So the equation is simply whether or not BB will take a third round pick instead of two years of back up play followed by a free agency defection. I wouldn't be surprised at all, but I would be shocked if ANY GM would offer that much for a player with no meaningful snaps in 2 years.

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