{"id":62026,"date":"2025-08-14T10:30:42","date_gmt":"2025-08-14T14:30:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/?p=62026"},"modified":"2025-08-14T10:30:42","modified_gmt":"2025-08-14T14:30:42","slug":"thursday-patriots-notebook-8-14-slugfest-against-vikings-vrabel-sets-expectations-for-dugger","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/2025\/08\/14\/thursday-patriots-notebook-8-14-slugfest-against-vikings-vrabel-sets-expectations-for-dugger\/","title":{"rendered":"Thursday Patriots Notebook 8\/14: &#8216;Slugfest&#8217; Against Vikings, Vrabel Sets Expectations for Dugger"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Some Patriots news and notes on this Thursday:<\/p>\n<p>1) The Patriots held their first joint session with the Vikings on Wednesday out in Minnesota, with <strong>Drake Maye<\/strong> and the offense holding its own against a well-coached Vikings defense.<\/p>\n<p>All in all, offensive coordinator <strong>Josh McDaniels<\/strong> helped put the offense in some good spots, with Maye seemingly having some options to work his way out of several blitzes Minnesota threw at him on Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>The biggest one came on a play where they managed to draw the Vikings defense up while <strong>TreVeyon Henderson<\/strong> slipped behind them and was left all alone, with Maye hitting him for what ended up being a 70-yard touchdown.<\/p>\n<p>One thing we&#8217;ve learned so far.\u00a0 If you get Henderson in the open field, he&#8217;s gone.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think they just didn\u2019t account for them and just trying to give it to him an easy ball to let him catch and run,&#8221; said Maye on the play.\u00a0 &#8220;I think it\u2019s hard to catch him once he\u2019s in the open field.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Maye also hit <strong>Mack Hollins<\/strong> on another long score, with the offense having a relatively solid outing.\u00a0 That&#8217;s essentially what they needed after a couple of difficult days back in Fobxoro, with a change of scenery clearly doing the offense a little bit of good.\u00a0 The fact it happened against a pretty good defense certainly didn&#8217;t hurt, either.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think it was good for us,&#8221; said Maye on the practice after it was over.\u00a0 &#8220;It was good for us to see a defense that does a lot of things. They got us a few times, feel like we got them. So it\u2019s good for us to see that and experience a new defense, and kind of very different from Washington and very different from our defense.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Overall, reporters who were on hand had Maye finishing the afternoon completing 16-of-25 in team drills, along with some nice plays, including those two long touchdowns.<\/p>\n<p>Granted, it wasn&#8217;t all perfect.\u00a0 Maye did have a ball that was nearly picked and likely would have taken a couple of sacks.\u00a0 But the fact the recognition and adjustments were there to the point they had good production was a positive sign, and certainly one to build on as they head into today&#8217;s session.<\/p>\n<div class=\"m-0 p-0 pb-0\" style=\"background-color: #313131; text-align: right; border-bottom-left-radius: 5px; border-bottom-right-radius: 5px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"pf_reveal lazy size-full wp-image-61344\" style=\"width: 100%; height: auto;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-450x300.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-450x300.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-660x440.jpg 660w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-380x253.jpg 380w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689927_168390408_lowres-150x100.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 450px, (max-width: 768px) 660px, (max-width: 1024px) 800px, 1200px\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Drake Maye\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"m-0 mb-3 p-0 pb-3 pt-0 pr-3 pl-3\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 10px; color: white;\">(PHOTO: Eric Canha-Imagn Images)<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>2) Phil Perry provided some good perspective <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=649DgoUbtVw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>during the most recent episode of the podcast<\/strong> <\/a>he and Tom Curran released following the session.\u00a0 Perry painted a picture of what was apparently an intense &#8216;slugfest&#8217; between the two teams on Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This was a knock-down, drag-out slugfest between the Patriots offense and the Vikings&#8217; defense,&#8221; said Perry.\u00a0 &#8220;Just haymakers everywhere. If there wasn&#8217;t a Viking sack, and there were a bunch of them, then there was a Patriots explosive play. That just felt like how the practice went.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It was almost an all-or-nothing type of affair. And so from my perspective, as someone who thought it could look really, really ugly for this Patriots offense, specifically, their young players on the left side of the offensive line, their young pass protecting running back and their second year quarterback in a new system, I thought it could go horribly, quite frankly, for them. And it did at times, but it wasn&#8217;t that way throughout. And I think they should be encouraged to a degree by that because they got theirs.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They were sacked six times. The Drake Maye offense was sacked six times, but he threw two long touchdowns to TreVeyon Henderson and Mack Hollins. He had a couple of other explosive completions to Pop Douglas. So a very up and down day, roller coaster day, plenty of bad for Mike Vrabel to critique, but enough in the way of explosive success moments that you come away from it saying, &#8216;Okay, we held our own there,&#8217; in my opinion, if you&#8217;re the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\" title=\"New England Patriots at PatsFans.com\"><strong>New England Patriots<\/strong><\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Perry noted that most of those sacks came in the early part of practice, and that they did get better later in the period.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There were a bunch of flags mixed in there,&#8221; said Perry.\u00a0 &#8220;Pop Douglas had a fumble, but 13 for 21 in the passing game with six sacks. Now, four of those sacks came in the first 10 plays. So in the second half of 11 on 11 action, they got a lot better. I think they allowed two sacks on their next 14 or 15 drop-backs. So that&#8217;s not great either, but it was better.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It got a little bit better as it went on, and they almost closed on the Henderson long breakdown, which is about a 60-yard catch and run. He was wide open, wheel route, good throw from Drake Maye. He just outran everybody to the end zone. That was supposed to be, it sounds like, the end of the two-minute period for the top Patriots offense. Vrabel brought them back out for another two-minute period that did not go as well. But they had their share of success, which, to be quite honest with you, surprised me a little bit today.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"m-0 p-0 pb-0\" style=\"background-color: #313131; text-align: right; border-bottom-left-radius: 5px; border-bottom-right-radius: 5px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"pf_reveal lazy size-full wp-image-61529\" style=\"width: 100%; height: auto;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-450x300.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-450x300.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-660x440.jpg 660w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-380x253.jpg 380w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26446095_168390408_lowres-150x100.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 450px, (max-width: 768px) 660px, (max-width: 1024px) 800px, 1200px\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Kyle Dugger\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"m-0 mb-3 p-0 pb-3 pt-0 pr-3 pl-3\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 10px; color: white;\">(PHOTO: Eric Canha-Imagn Image)<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;\">3) One thing that was interesting on Wednesday was the fact that Mike Vrabel was pretty candid when it came to\u00a0<strong>Kyle Dugger<\/strong>, which, given\u00a0<strong>Bill Belichick&#8217;s<\/strong> history with things like that, was definitely a different experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>After seemingly dropping down the depth chart, Vrabel was asked about what Dugger needs to do in order to work his way back in with the starters<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/2025\/08\/13\/transcript-mike-vrabel-press-conference-8-13\/\"><strong> during his press conference yesterday<\/strong><\/a>.\u00a0 Vrabel said there are some things he needs to work on, albeit he praised Dugger&#8217;s attitude during the process.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think just making sure that he\u2019s where he needs to be and understanding that the coverage concepts and everything we do, keep working and keep progressing,&#8221; said Vrabel.\u00a0 &#8220;A lot of this is the guys that have earned a right to take a look with that first unit. And again, there\u2019ll be different lineups and different things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It\u2019s a little just focus on the reps that you get. Right now, his attitude has been great. And he\u2019s had a long, long recovery in the offseason. So just keep \u2026he\u2019s been out there and he\u2019s continuing to get better and work. I think the more that he practices, the better he\u2019s going to feel and the more that it\u2019s going to translate onto the football field.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dugger, at least to this point, has been playing behind rookie <strong>Craig Woodson<\/strong>, and he feels like a player who may be in a tough spot by the time we get to the end of training camp.\u00a0 Vrabel said back in the spring that it&#8217;s a clean slate for everybody and that guys who are on the team will need to earn their role.\u00a0 What that means for Dugger remains to be seen, but it definitely feels like he&#8217;s got his work cut out for him.<\/p>\n<div class=\"m-0 p-0 pb-0\" style=\"background-color: #313131; text-align: right; border-bottom-left-radius: 5px; border-bottom-right-radius: 5px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"pf_reveal lazy size-full wp-image-61345\" style=\"width: 100%; height: auto;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-450x300.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-450x300.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-660x440.jpg 660w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-380x253.jpg 380w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/USATSI_26689983_168390408_lowres-150x100.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 450px, (max-width: 768px) 660px, (max-width: 1024px) 800px, 1200px\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Drake Maye\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"m-0 mb-3 p-0 pb-3 pt-0 pr-3 pl-3\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 10px; color: white;\">(PHOTO: Eric Canha-Imagn Images)<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>4) Vrabel was asked about the fact that he&#8217;s continued to push Maye when it comes to his leadership, and whether or not he feels that part is lacking.\u00a0 Vrabel explained that isn&#8217;t necessarily the case, but he emphasized that there will be times where things may not be going their way and that Maye&#8217;s approach will be a big key in them working through that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, it\u2019s not that it\u2019s lacking. I just always want more,&#8221; said Vrabel.\u00a0 &#8220;I think I have to as a coach. I think that we always want to try to take a player, and we want to meet them where they\u2019re at and then be able to improve on that. So there\u2019s no finished products no matter what. We always can continue to work on things, focus on our reaction, our response to things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;As a quarterback or any player, you want it to be perfect, and it\u2019s never going to be perfect. And you can sit there and paralyze yourself sometimes by mistakes. We need to focus on our responses to those mistakes that are so critical. There\u2019s so many snaps in the football game, there\u2019s certain things that can go up and down, and performance is one of them, and our attitude and our effort is something that can\u2019t.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Maye was asked if it gets annoying having Vrabel push him in that way, but the second-year quarterback said he actually enjoys it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo, I think I want that,&#8221; said Maye. &#8220;I want somebody to push me to do more for the team, have more of an impact with the guys around me. I feel like if I have that, and I feel like I\u2019m not showing it myself, then I need somebody to push me along.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When asked if being a captain was something that mattered to him, Maye said that it&#8217;s something he hopes to be, but certainly not something he takes lightly.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s a great honor,&#8221; said Maye.\u00a0 &#8220;I think it\u2019s something that you don\u2019t take lightly around here, especially with this Patriots teams in the past with the captains they had. It\u2019s an aspiration to be a captain, but there\u2019s a lot of guys on this team that deserve that and have played a long time in this league.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Odds and Ends<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The Patriots did have some players sit out this one, with <strong>Rhamondre Stevenson<\/strong>,\u00a0<strong>Hunter Henry<\/strong>,\u00a0<strong>Marte Mapu<\/strong>, <strong>DJ James<\/strong>, <strong>Kendrick Bourne<\/strong>, <strong>Ja&#8217;Lynn Polk<\/strong>, <strong>Christian Gonzalez, <\/strong>and <strong>Jahlani Tavai<\/strong> all sidelined,\u00a0while <strong>Christian Barmore\u00a0<\/strong>was a notable name as a player who was limited. &#8230; This marked another day Stevenson&#8217;s been sidelined, and Vrabel was asked if he&#8217;s dealing with anything that could be &#8216;a long-term thing.&#8217;\u00a0 \u201cI don\u2019t think so,&#8221; said Vrabel.\u00a0 &#8220;No. I mean, hopefully we\u2019ll get him back here sooner rather than later. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s anything that\u2019s significant.\u201d &#8230;\u00a0<strong>Jaylinn Hawkins\u00a0<\/strong>garnered some praise from Vrabel on Wednesday.\u00a0 Hawkins has been getting some time with the starters, and Vrabel said he continues taking advantage of his opportunities.\u00a0 \u201cI think he\u2019s done a nice job of coming in and communicating and playing pretty much all the different techniques that we\u2019ve asked these guys to do on the back-end,&#8221; said Vrabel.\u00a0 &#8220;I think he\u2019s playing with some speed and plays with some physicality. You saw a couple of passes out to the perimeter that he was on in tight coverage in the game. I just really evaluated him and decided to get him back from last year. He did a nice job and played all special teams, played a lot of defense when guys went down. So he\u2019s continuing to take advantage of his opportunities and then see where that goes.\u201d &#8230; After Vrabel provided his explanation on Dugger&#8217;s situation, the safety apparently spent the session working again with the second group, with the veteran having a tough outing after drawing a pass interference penalty. &#8230; Kicker <strong>Andres Borregales<\/strong> had a better day Wednesday, hitting 5-of-6 with his lone miss coming from 54 yards.\u00a0\u00a0<strong>John Parker-Romo<\/strong> didn&#8217;t see any attempts, which likely means Borregales will have to sit back and watch him take all of the club&#8217;s attempts today. &#8230; Meanwhile, today is Vrabel&#8217;s birthday, with the head coach turning 50.\u00a0 He was in good spirits yesterday, noting that, \u201cIt\u2019s a good place to work up here,&#8221; he said. &#8220;That\u2019s why when we came up here before in Tennessee, good experience, excellent experience to come back. 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