{"id":48908,"date":"2023-10-20T11:25:58","date_gmt":"2023-10-20T15:25:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/?p=48908"},"modified":"2023-10-20T12:30:29","modified_gmt":"2023-10-20T16:30:29","slug":"breer-discussions-on-firing-belichick-have-taken-place-adding-a-gm-also-possible","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/2023\/10\/20\/breer-discussions-on-firing-belichick-have-taken-place-adding-a-gm-also-possible\/","title":{"rendered":"Breer: Discussions on Firing Belichick &#8216;Have Taken Place&#8217;, Adding a GM Also Possible"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\" title=\"New England Patriots at PatsFans.com\"><strong>New England Patriots<\/strong><\/a> in tough shape these days, the whispers about Bill Belichick&#8217;s future continue to be discussed and Sports Illustrated&#8217;s Albert Breer made some interesting revelations this week.<\/p>\n<p>Breer was on <em>The Herd with Colin Cowherd<\/em> on Thursday, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=kd-7WQCEZ8g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>talking about various topics<\/strong><\/a> including the future of the Patriots as things continue to be turbulent sitting at 1-5.<\/p>\n<p>Breer told Cowherd that the discussions about Belichick&#8217;s future have taken place with Patriots owner Robert Kraft, who has heard the anger and frustration from the fan base.<\/p>\n<p>According to Breer, Kraft is obviously upset with the current state of the football team, and it sounds like the club actually started working toward some significant changes as it was under Belichick going back to early this offseason.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;These discussions have taken place, and I can tell you for sure, I mean, Robert hears the criticism,&#8221; 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