{"id":39912,"date":"2022-03-05T16:14:15","date_gmt":"2022-03-05T21:14:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/?p=39912"},"modified":"2022-03-05T16:14:15","modified_gmt":"2022-03-05T21:14:15","slug":"nfl-combine-day-2-official-40-times-controversy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patsfans.com\/patriots\/blog\/2022\/03\/05\/nfl-combine-day-2-official-40-times-controversy\/","title":{"rendered":"NFL Combine Day 2: Official 40 Times Controversy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Combine Day 2<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Biggest Surprise <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I was shocked at how well all the backs caught the ball.\u00a0 Usually, you have one or two that can catch.\u00a0 We knew that James Cook and Kyren Williams were going to catch well.\u00a0 When the running backs went through the catching drills nearly all the backs performed well.<\/p>\n<p>Tyler Goodson RB Iowa \u2013 Goodson ran an Official 4.42 40 yard dash.\u00a0 His run was full 10<sup>th<\/sup> of a second faster than expected.\u00a0 Goodson also looked great in the pass-catching drills.\u00a0 He really helped himself and has the scouts scrambling to re-review the game tape.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Winners<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pierre Strong RB South Dakota St \u2013 get to know this name!\u00a0 Strong ran an impressive 4.37.\u00a0 He is rocked up 5\u201911\u201d, 209 lbs, 4.37(O) that put up great numbers against FCS competition (1600 yards and 18 TDs in 2021).\u00a0 Great vision and can catch out of the backfield.<\/p>\n<p>Kenneth Walker RB Michigan St and Breece Hall RB Iowa St. \u2013 Both were the top dogs at RB and they did nothing bad at the combine, solidifying their places.\u00a0 Running back is just not a priority anymore in the league and neither will be a 1st round selection.<\/p>\n<p>Abraham Lucas OT Washington St \u2013 at 6\u2019 6\u201d 315 lbs, 4.92 40.\u00a0 Lucas dropped 7 lbs for the combine and posted a 7.25 3-cone drill which measure lateral quickness.\u00a0 That tied Trevor Penning for the top time.\u00a0 The 7.25 time is very good for an O-lineman.<\/p>\n<p>Cam Jurgens OC Nebraska \u2013 I knew little about Jurgens before the Combine but his 4.92 40 times made me find out more.\u00a0 Jurgens performed very well in the field drills and his aggressive style showed even in the drills.<\/p>\n<p>Tyler Smith OT Tulsa &#8211; He clocked an impressive 1.71 10-yard split (the 1<sup>st<\/sup> 10 yards of the 40-yard dash) and proved to be as athletic in drills as he is on tape.\u00a0 Reports stated that Smith had great athleticism in wave drill, fluid feet, smooth hips out of his stance in the pull drill.<\/p>\n<p>Trevor Penning OT Northern Iowa &#8211; Penning with a nasty streak that was evident at the Senior Bowl practices as he finished off every play at or after the whistle.\u00a0 Penning blew away the Combine thanks to his incredible testing, including a 4.89 40-yard dash, and 7.25 3-cone drill. 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