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Negan laying the pipe on a masked Alpha will be... interesting.
Lol immediately dimes out Gamma too.
Yea I bet he ask Beta if he wants to sniff his fingers.
Gotta think him turning in Gamma is strategic. I don’t think he wants her to die. Negan is a sociopath but he loves kids.
Definitely. Have a feeling they already suspected her or something like that. To where he's not really hurting her, more or less just stating the obvious.
Hopefully AK comes up with something good for season B.
Negan’s got her. He’s deep in her head. Next he’s going to have her head.
Didn't he ask her if she was going to cut off his? Yea I just hope we get Betas pov throughout this. Ok as a mid-pre, wasn't blown away. Basically just a teaser before BCS. Which btw is unbelievable. Casting, production, directing, acting... They nailed that whole series and have a nice final season set up next year?? Not sure if that's correct? But anyway yea it's definitely up there with the best of the best over the last 10-20 years imo.
The story with Carol is plodding. Everything else was fine but they’ve written her character horribly this year. It’s also something they’ve done with her before. Very much agree on BCS.
This last week’s episode was the best one in YEARS. Maybe since as far back as season 3. Beta tearing through Alexandria was true horror movie-type ****.
Thought the same!
Last week's was garbage on rewatch but loved this week! I wish Alpha hurt Derle more. It was great start to finish.
No Negan which was great. Besides 5-6 epis he's been a huge bust imo. Flashes here & there but just doesn't do it for me.
Definitely have some hope going forward now
That... was all kinds of awesome. They finally got a battle scene right and nobody made any brain dead decisions. It also looks like Negan is going to decapitate Alpha next week and bring her head back to Alexandria as tribute.
So looking forward to moving on from the Whisperers. Besides Beta its been a big disappointment.
Beta is about to take control of that unit. I do agree that they’ve dragged it out longer than they should, though.
Besides the pre SB has been absolute fire! What an epi. Negan was great, right on cue. Confirmation Beta was in a band? Remember when dude said I knew your voice or w/e. What looked like Hurst on a album cover from Fear? Lol nuts. I love it though.
Spoilers for this week ...
Episode 10x13 "What We Become" Q & A
It's come time to say goodbye to Michonne, who is ready to find out how? Thank you as always to our amazing source!
1.) Did Virgil lie to Michonne? Are there actually weapons on the island?
Yes. No, there aren’t weapons on the island. He brought her there to have her put his walker-ified family out of their misery. He says that there have never been many "Rippers" where he is, so he's never really gotten good at what it is that Michonne does.
2.) Who are the “others” that Virgil refers to? What has happened on the island?
They are Virgil's ex-colleagues. They say that they were taking in stray people once, and it got crazy with food supplies running low and everything, so a fight broke out and some newbie died. Virgil decided to lock all the doors after this, not knowing that his wife and children were inside. The others say that Virgil also locked them up after that.
3.) Who set the boat on fire?
4.) Why do we hear Michonne scream, “What did you do?”
She thinks Virgil must have done something to Rick, to set a trap for him, but apparently he didn't know anything about him, just that some boat with some of his stuff in it washed ashore after a storm.
5.) Why is Michonne locked in a room? How does she get out?
Virgil locks her in there. It turns out he actually wanted to set the others free but feared they would kill him, so he was going to try to break it to Michonne gently, to have her there to protect him when he releases them. When Michonne goes out by herself in the middle of the night, she finds them first, that's why Virgil locks her in too. She actually stabs him in the leg. Then she runs outside. Virgil gets away too, at first. They catch him soon after.
6.) Andrea appears in the opening minutes. Do we see any other previous characters?
Yes lots. Everyone from 6x16, specifically.
7.) Can you explain the hallucinations that Michonne has?
She has the hallucinations after drinking a tea given to her by Virgil. The hallucinations are the story of what would have happened to Michonne if she hadn't helped Andrea and met Negan instead, becoming a Savior. There are scenes into which she's added digitally, being on the other side this time. The Lucille scene is Negan asking her to do what he did in 6x16, her being his right-hand-woman. She's actually pointing Lucille at herself and swinging it at herself.
There's also one from when they passed a hitchhiker without helping him (orange backpack guy) But this time, Michonne is the hitchhiker begging for help and Daryl is the one ignoring her.
Later on, during a chase in the woods, she's shot in the chest by Daryl with an arrow and shot in the face by Rick with the pistol.
8.) Do we see anything with the other communities?
9.) What ends up happening to Virgil? Does he live?
Yes. Michonne gets the others to spare him and they are willing to let him leave with them. He chooses to stay back because he promised his wife flowers every day.
10.) Can you describe the scene where Michonne discovers Rick might still be alive?
After they decide to spare Virgil, Michonne asks him to take her to her stuff. Michonne sees the boots first on a shelf. She puts them up against her nose and cries. She pins Virgil against the wall and questions him on where he got the boots. They go to this military-looking boat that has washed ashore during a storm. Michonne starts looking at the stuff on a table and finds an iPhone with a drawing of her and Judith on its screen, with the word "Rick" on the top right corner. She questions Virgil again, to no avail. He tells her that their meeting may not have been accidental, that he can get the boat running again with help from the others, and maybe she can find this person again.
11.) How does Michonne plan on finding Rick? Does she find any clues about where he is?
Yes, there is a location marked on the ship's logbook which I can't remember right now, unfortunately. She tells Judith she's going to head north.
12.) Does anyone else besides Judith learn about Rick possibly being alive?
13.) What are Michonne’s last words to Judith?
She tells her that she will call her on the radio as long as it's possible, and that she loves her and RJ so much. And Judith will listen to Uncle Daryl.
14.) Does Michonne talk to RJ or anyone else?
Only Judith and RJ. Her conversation is RJ is adorable. He has his own call sign, Little Brave Man. He actually has quite a few lines here.
15.) How does the episode end?
Michonne gets herself two new pet walkers. While traveling, she comes across a man and a woman who her for help, saying "they'll leave without us". When Michonne says who, they point towards the horizon and we see a large army-like group moving in formation. At this point, she remembers Carl and Rick trying to decide whether to help her or not, she kills the two pet walkers and offers the two help.
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Q&A Episode 10.14 "Look at the Flowers"
Good afternoon, spoiler junkies. Time for episode 10.14 spoiler delights!! Big thanks to our fabulous source!
1.) Are the groups still separated?
Everyone who were at Hilltop still seems to be there, and Hilltop is the only community we see.
2.) Does anyone learn about Michonne leaving to find Rick? If so, what are their reactions?
3.) Is Carol dreaming or hallucinating when she sees Alpha in the woods? Does she have more of these dreams/hallucinations?
I should say neither, because I think this is meant to be more of a conversation that Carol has with herself. Yes, it continues throughout the episode, until she resolves it. "Alpha" taunts her about her life, how she's lost everyone no matter what she did, and her end is inevitable.
4.) Why is Carol alone in the woods? What’s inside the cabin she’s approaching?
She tells Negan that she needs to be alone. A boat, apparently. When she's trying to get it off a shelf, it falls, and the roof of the cabin collapses with it, trapping Carol underneath. A walker starts coming in, she frees herself and kills it. This gets "Alpha" to disappear.
5.) What is the deal made between Carol and Negan? Does she keep her word?
Carol says that if Negan kills Alpha, she will make sure the people remembers him for that and not the other stuff. Not exactly, because she leaves to be on her own. It's Daryl who ends up finding Negan and hearing his story first.
6.) Does someone say "Look at the Flowers" in this episode? Who?
Yes. Hallucination Alpha to Carol, as she's trapped under debris and a walker is approaching.
7.) What's going on with Lydia? Does she know Alpha is dead?
Lydia is not in this episode.
8.) What happens with Negan and Daryl?
Negan goes to the other cabin to get Lydia but finds Daryl instead. He takes him to the spikes where he and Carol had put Alpha's head, but since Beta took it in the meantime, it's no longer there. While Negan is trying to convince Daryl of his good intentions, some Whisperers arrive with guns and say that they are there to kneel to the new Alpha. Needless to say, all this is very amusing to Negan. He then kills the Whisperers instead.
9.) Do Daryl and Carol interact in this episode? If so, what happens during their scenes?
Once. After freeing herself from the debris at the cabin, Carol comes back to Hilltop. Daryl lets her in, they don't speak to each other.
10.) Why do Yumiko and Ezekiel decide to join Eugene on his journey to meet Stephanie?
No specific reason is mentioned.
11.) What happens during Yumiko, Ezekiel, and Eugene’s journey? Do they make it?
Ezekiel is not feeling well. He feels like giving up after his horse dies, saying maybe he's not strong enough to make the journey. Yumiko tells him that they need the man who built a Kingdom during the apocalypse by their side. Yes, they do make it.
12.) Do they meet Princess?
Yes! She's in this weird place where everyone (walkers) is either tied or handcuffed asis, while they were going about their lives. This is where they see the policewalker.
13.) Do we learn Connie's fate?
14.) What is Beta’s reaction to Alpha’s death? What is his plan now that she’s gone?
So, Beta actually takes up about a third of the episode. It is revealed that he has some sort of a secret hideout where there's a bed, a guitar, a record player and his records. He's Half Moon, country singer. He brings Alpha's head here in a sack, and has a fit of rage, smashing his guitar. Then, he puts on a live recording of his, and goes out onto the balcony to see hundreds of walkers gathering outside. Afterwards, he thanks Alpha's head and drives a blade into it, goes out the front door, straight into the walkers, and starts leading them.
15.) We see Beta walking with a guy in a red shirt in promo pictures. Who is he and what happens to him?
He's a random Whisperer who makes the mistake of telling Beta that he's the new Alpha. Beta has Alpha's head bite this guy's ear off, and then has him killed by walkers.
16.) How does the episode end?
With Beta, how I described in Q14.
17.) Anything else interesting?
I'm going to have to say no.This was a bit of an uneventful episode, but still a good one.
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Sucks that post production got held up because of Covid 19. I was really looking forward to the finale. @BaconGrundleCandy have you changed your mind on JDM's performance of Negan yet? He played Alpha like a fiddle.
He was really good for this arc. Good when he seems to have a mission? Idk the Savior arc just turned me off when it comes to him. Definitely better.
Yea finale actually looks pretty sweet. Reminds me of the old days when you know some new stuff is around the corner.
We get a ninja too?
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