Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Ice_Ice_Brady, Jun 9, 2019.
Hearing my own wife in labor was enough of that for me.
don’t forget Serena
Federer, but only because he has more major titles. If Nadal catches him, it’s got to be Nadal since he leads the head-to-head match-ups between the two.
As a kid used to work at a restaurant next to Newport Casino, so could watch the annual tournament as time allowed.. glad I got in for free.
Must admit never did all that much for me, it always seemed more fun to play the game than be a spectator..
To me, yes, because the # of big wins is so subjective given the "who played who" part of it. The three of them (plus Sampras) were all so great, I step back from records and wins to look at how they did it, what they brought to the game. Player's contributions to the sport are as important as their wins, when measuring greatness.
Federer could be the GOAT of all GOATs. Much respect for tennis players since if they win it’s all on them. No teammates, nothing. Just them.
I was hoping for a tennis thread to fill the void here at the PatsFans.com football site during this current lull in celebrity deaths.
Funny but it is the off season. Also, no one asked you to post here unless you’ve got dissociative personality disorder.
I think that's the thing. Djokovic will if he continues on this arc but Federer is right now.
The head to head for Nadal vs Federer is distorted by Nadal holding a 14-2 lead on clay. That puts Federer ahead 13-10 on other surfaces. Federer unlike Sampras, McEnroe and other players more suited to grass is still a terrific player on Clay, as is Djokovic. If not for Nadal the other two would have multiple French Open championships.
Also being 5 years younger a lot of Nadal's wins were in his prime while Federer was post 30 and now at 37 still playing amazing tennis.
(2)Djokovic 68-8, 89.47%
(5) Federer 97-14, 87.39%
(10) Nadal 61-13, 82.43%
(1) Nadal 93-2, 97.89% (truly amazing)
(7) Djokovic 68-14, 82.93%
Federer not in top ten
(5) Federer 95-12, 88.79%
(7) Djokovic 65-10, 86.67%
Nadal not in top ten
(5) Djokovic 69-10, 87.34%
(6) Federer 85-13, 86.73%
Nadal not in top ten
Only Djokovic is in the top ten for all four. Nadal is cemented as #1 in the French but he will probably fall out of the top ten at the Australian before it's over. Federer and Djokovic will battle on win percentages in the other three.
Just more example why I put the other two above Nadal over all.
What I don’t understand is why Murray is lumped with the other three and considered part of a “Big Four”. 2 Olympic golds is cool, but he’s won only 3 majors, compared to 15, 18, and 20 for Njokovic, Nadal, and Federer.
Murray’s career is nothing to sneeze it, but not remotely in the same stratosphere as the other three.
Wondery just finished a really interesting podcast (Sports Wars) about the rivalry between Federer and Nadal. I really enjoyed it. They also have a series about Farv vs. Rodgers which is really good as well.
Wondery - Feel The Story Sports Wars
I bet you can't even tell who were the finalists in the last grand slam for Women (French Open) without looking it up. Even if you did, I bet you have no idea who those girls are.
See, I agree with the this criteria, which is why I’m surprised Federer is dominating this poll. It’s really going to be more black and white as time goes on, and the man with most grand slams wins. I think Djokovic comes out on top but admittedly it’s just a guess. Aesthetics are great and all, but when we look back it tends to be reduced to accomplishments, and the slams are the measuring stick in tennis. Perhaps I should have just asked the poll question: which player will have more grand slams at retirement?
Again I read it as who's the best right now. If you asked me who's going to be the best when it's all done I would have gone with NJ. Even if Nadal wins the most majors I can't put him #1 unless those include three or four more in slams not named the French. I know most people will just go by GS count but it's like not accounting for Dome vs inclement stadium play in football.
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