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Let’s be real, this was the only pick that all the networks had nothing on standby for to talk about because it was such a reach.
Fair.Like most of you, to me this felt like a massive reach when they had other studs sitting there, and at positions of major need.
But I think years down the road, we are going to look back on this pick and say, you know what, Cole Strange turned out to be one hell of a player.
It is fairly obvious that BB has lost it. I would prepare for another very average season. He is falling behind the curve on what it takes to win in today's NFL. It happens to all great coaches.
Jackson was replaced by …..Butler!?He didn’t create a hole by trading Mason, it ironed up a job for Onwenu, who I expect to be just as good at a much lower cost.
The hole was created by not overpaying an unathletic, not very strong JAG at LG, which he just used a draft choice to upgrade.
Jackson was replaced by Butler.
WR was addressed with Parker.
LB was addressed with McMillan, McGrone and Jennings returning from injuries and adding Wilson
DL will probably be addressed later in the draft but he may not feel there is a hole there with barmore, Godchaux, Guy, and Davis but I’m not sure a DT would have been the move in round 1 anyway.
3-7 against teams with a winning records.They just went 10-7 last year and made the playoffs, with a rookie QB.
I mean.....
3-7 against teams with a winning records.
3-8 if you count the playoffs.
If they select someone I wanted in the first round in the second round, for me it's not really different than them drafting who I wanted in order.they could have drafted any of those players at 29 and then got Strange at 54, without trading anything
Agreed. Not being boring is okay, and I’m certainly in favor of questioning decisions and looking at alternatives, but the level of hostility and animosity and vehemence that has come out in reactions to this pick is scary. It makes me worry about the stability of some posters here, and whether we need to be concerned about an active shooter invading Patriot Place in response to an unpopular draft pick.
not talking specifically about you, just saying that the overreaction to this pick makes it hard to have a serious conversation and maintain perspective, and that bleeds over to affect responses to posters that aren’t so over the top…
It is fairly obvious that BB has lost it. I would prepare for another very average season. He is falling behind the curve on what it takes to win in today's NFL. It happens to all great coaches.
My issue is even if he ends up as a great guard he is still just a guard. That is a spot where we have plugged in lots of mid/late rounders or undrafted guys who played well on some very good teams. To me the gap between average to good guard is pretty negligible where as corner or LB or some of the other gaping holes on the roster that gap is significantly larger.Like most of you, to me this felt like a massive reach when they had other studs sitting there, and at positions of major need.
But I think years down the road, we are going to look back on this pick and say, you know what, Cole Strange turned out to be one hell of a player.
Bill has a long way to go to gain back my confidence.It is fairly obvious that BB has lost it. I would prepare for another very average season. He is falling behind the curve on what it takes to win in today's NFL. It happens to all great coaches.
My issue is even if he ends up as a great guard he is still just a guard. That is a spot where we have plugged in lots of mid/late rounders or undrafted guys who played well on some very good teams. To me the gap between average to good guard is pretty negligible where as corner or LB or some of the other gaping holes on the roster that gap is significantly larger.
Genuinely curious, did you view the Patriots team last season as a disappointment? I have a tough time thinking of last season in those terms given that the team had a rookie quarterback and exceeded expectations.3-7 against teams with a winning records.
3-8 if you count the playoffs.
I’m sure that keeps him up nights.Bill has a long way to go to gain back my confidence.
I am not really worried about Strange being good because honestly Bill's track record with offensive lineman has been pretty damn good for 20 years. I just view guard like I view RB. Why take a guy in the first with an A grade when you can take a guy in the 4th with a B grade? I also don't like that we let Karras walk and sign for $5 mill to take an unproven guy to replace him at around $2.5 mill. I know $2.5 million is nothing to sneeze at but it isn't a major savings like taking a (in theory) number 1 corner in round 1 after losing JC Jackson to a big money deal.I'm very sympathetic to this line of thinking, to be honest. But clearly BB doesn't see it that way, and thinks that this is a really important player at a really important position. Generally, Bill has proven right over the many, many years of doing this. He's not always going to be right, of course, but more often than not, he is.
He's got a GREAT track record with the Pats of drafting OL in rounds 1-2. So I've no doubt that this guy will end up being terrific. I just wish they had taken Travis Jones there and risked waiting til the 2nd round to get Strange.