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  1. lancerman

    lancerman In the Starting Line-Up

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    So how about the two of us be Denver Buccaneers fans?
     
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  2. Kenneth Sims

    Kenneth Sims PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Bill sees DMac, Hightower and Slater as the modern day Willie McGinests. The locker room godfathers carrying on the Patriot Way. I don’t think they see this as a rebuilding year, but even if they did, they still need to maintain a leadership bridge to the future.
     
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  3. Ice_Ice_Brady

    Ice_Ice_Brady PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    We’ve heard a lot about the 11-5 2008 season (and I mean a lot). The 2020 season will be a roster lacking talent against a brutal schedule...so the opposite of 2008.
     
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  4. TheRainMaker

    TheRainMaker In the Starting Line-Up

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    The 2008 season may have been the worst season I've ever seen. The entire league was pretty bad.
     
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  5. DW Toys

    DW Toys In the Starting Line-Up

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    No question, the phones are down in Foxborough.
    DW Toys
     
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  6. DaBruinz

    DaBruinz Pats, B's, Sox PatsFans.com Supporter

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    AJ Bouye traded to the Broncos
     
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  7. DaBruinz

    DaBruinz Pats, B's, Sox PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Miller going to the Panthers



    Cedric Ogbuehi to the Seahawks

     
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  8. ausbacker

    ausbacker TB12 PatsFans.com Supporter

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    The Pats just lost their competitive advantage, the major reason why players wanted to come here in the first place. As much as I respect BB, in this system, Brady made it go. Bargain hopping isn't going to get this team back to the promised land, not with the uncertainty at QB and with players asking themselves, why should I take less to play for the Patriots?

    The simple reality is, the Pats are sorely lacking in WR/TE/DL game-changing playmakers, lack across the board positional depth, have condensed a significant amount of capital in the Secondary and are hamstrung by what can only be looked at as poor cap management. That's not to say the team hasn't been trying because I'm sure they have but as I see it, as much as I would like them to compete for championships, as currently constructed, the roster is incredibly unbalanced and frankly, probably worth .500.

    I don't know what we have in Stidham but without legitimate pass catching talent, he's being set up to fail.
     
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  9. Aßßynormal

    Aßßynormal PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    This years brutal schedule is our friend. It will hasten the development of our team chemistry, through trial by combat. It doesn't mean we fail to make the playoffs. At worst, it means by years end, no one will want to play us. Period.
     
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  10. Ochmed Jones

    Ochmed Jones Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    And allow us to more easily tank for Lawrence!
     
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  11. Bill Lee

    Bill Lee What, me worry? PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Good thing we just made 3 of the last 4 Super Bowls and won two of them.

    Or did you expect it to go on forever?
     
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  12. Joey007

    Joey007 Pro Bowl Player

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    So 5-11?
     
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  13. venecol

    venecol The FRG has a little **** PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Woah, things must be grim when players are turning down higher multi-year offers from NEP to go play at Miami. :eek:

    So far:

    MIA: Karras, Van Noy, Roberts
    DET: Harmon, Shelton, Collins

    Coaches: Scarnecchia, Judge, Bielema
     
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  14. Ice_Ice_Brady

    Ice_Ice_Brady PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    It’s almost like there’s some reason players are no longer interested, like a recent change. I’ll let you know if I discover anything in my research.
     
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  15. TomPatriot

    TomPatriot PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I didn’t forget him. But he didn’t see the field, so I didn’t include him. We’ll see how he does.
     
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  16. TomPatriot

    TomPatriot PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Marshall Newhouse would be the starting RT on the Bucs right now. And he might not be much worse than the LT. :eek:

    Oh, wait. This is heresy. The Bucs are going to the SB, I forgot. ;)
     
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  17. zimmy

    zimmy Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Let's all calm down a little. We actually kept our best free agent in Joe Thuney. Van Noy and Collins were off regardless of whether Brady stayed or not.

    Does anyone really care about Shelton or Roberts? The run D stank last year and Shelton was a big part of that. Roberts was a limited backup LB. Karras would have been nice as insurance due to Andrews' situation but we can find another backup center.

    I know everything thinks the sky is falling but perhaps we can have a little faith in Bill for the time being. It's literally day 2 of free agency.
     
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  18. stelfans

    stelfans Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Every year is the same thing.
    Problem is, last year we waited and Bill couldnt field a competitive offense.
    This year we have the same ****ty offense minus a QB...so yeah, the sky isnt falling but its a little bit cloudy.
     
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  19. Addictive

    Addictive On the Roster

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    Exactly, you make a series of good points. If the Patriots had huge cap space would anyone really want to give these players that have signed with other teams the same contract to stay with the Pats? No. I'd have liked KVN to keep playing for the Patriots but at $15 mil per season he doesn't have the impact for that type of money yet he is still a very good player.

    Investing the money in Thuney is the smart move, either we continue to have the best Guard pairing in the NFL or we trade him for a decent pick and open up more cap space.
     
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  20. Vatahala

    Vatahala 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Add the Giants Joe Judge to your list as he just stole Nate Ebner.
     
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